New Bill Would Make All Pornography a Federal Crime in the U.S.

Woah, that's a thought that hadn't occurred to me. You're absolutely right.

I’m pretty anti-porn just like I’m very anti-religion but neither of these things can be killed by banning them. The idea that banning porn will somehow prevent people from accessing it when we know even people in NK or places like the Middle East can access it is just crazy, of course Americans will continue to be able to access it, and like you said this will just push production and distribution underground actually exacerbating the issues with the porn industry. I have few actual complaints about the end result of porn, I don’t believe it’s good or healthy but as a product to be consumed it’s only moderately harmful but the production of porn is where the real evils are found. This will lead to those in the porn industry being abused at rates and in ways currently unfathomable or illegal.

The studios will move out of the country, most likely.

Nah this type of law exists to be selectively applied, that's what makes it so great.

The only people who it will be applied to are those who are "undesirable" or step out of line.

The plan according to project 2025 is to classify trans people existing as pornographic. Wish I was joking. Been warning people about this for a year now.

That is the pragmatic and short term outcome, but I would not discount the level of power hard-line Christian nationalists have over the far right. Many of them believe "moral degeneracy" like porn is the most grave problem of western society and would be glad to "correct" it given the chance.

For-profit prison system goes, "Brrrrrrrrrr!!"

Please don't drag the insane down to this level. This is planned and intentional (even if there is factional opposition)

To be fair, Control is a pretty great game

Probably Europe, eastern Europe is already pretty populair for that market and otherwise countries like The Netherlands where sex is well normal and we don't treat it otherwise.

Problem is onlyfans putting more money in the wallets of the performers and not into the political-industral complex.

Mike Lee is a full-blown Mormon, which heavily frowns upon porn in any form (including literal prophetic teachings calling women "walking pornography"), so he absolutely does have porn on his devices.

Source: grew up Mormon, was taught this by leadership

You see the porn he's got probably illegal already

That was my first thought. This is gonna make the black market porn so valuable. It’s gonna be the greatest illegal trade of all time.

Oh, is that a thing in Japan? I hadn't heard of it, but can imagine it.

Cancel culture at its finest. Where my free speech absolutists gone?!

I totally believe him when he says that. I'm not sure he remembers what he had for breakfast yesterday.

The people around him sure do though

And all the "Dems aren't fixing it fast enough!" voters thinking it'll be good for some reason.

Regulations are put in place to make sure some people aren't allowed to hurt other people. Some would argue that this takes away their rights.

Yeah, the freedom to oppress others, just like the founding fathers did!

Look, reflexively saying "both sides aren't the same" is ignorant and actively doing harm when you use it to broadly. Are both parties the same? No. But on many issues, both parties are the same. And this is one of those issues. What you are saying is demonstrably, patently false.

The South Carolina bill passed with near-universal bipartisan support.

Same thing with the Texas bill.

On this issue, both sides are just as bad. Democrats are just as bad as Republicans.

The problem Democrats have is that they don't actually believe in anything. They follow polls and consultants, and they lack any backbone. They have no fight in them.

Look at trans rights. Democrats have completely ceded the issue to Republicans. Trans people make the walking corpses that are the Democratic leadership feel icky, so they offer only symbolic support to the trans community. Kamala, in the face of tens of millions of dollars of right wing demonization of trans people, couldn't even offer the most basic defense of trans rights and the worth of trans lives. All she could say was, "I'll follow the law."

It's really, really easy to make Democrats completely cave on the rights of any group. All you have to do is make the case to the public that it's for the good of children. Want to ban porn? Bill it as for the kids, and the Dems will be too chicken shit to say a word against it. Want to send trans people to gas chambers? Say it's for the kids, and Dems will vote for it. Demonize immigrants? The Democrats will try to outflank you on the right, competing with Republicans to see who can be crueler to immigrants and asylum seekers. Name the bill after a white woman that happened to be killed by an illegal immigrant, make defending it require effort, and Democrats will be falling over themselves to vote to send migrants to death camps.

Are the two parties the same? No. But on many issues, they are virtually identical. As long as you can make a flimsy case that some stripping of rights is for the good of the children, Democrats will ALWAYS be too cowardly to stand up against the propaganda. It's been this way since at least Tipper Gore in the 90s.

Brought to you by the only first lady to have pictures in Playboy.

The plan is to classify trans people as being pornographic by their very existence.

Yuppers.

Already 2025 creators starting to populate upper us government.

https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/creator-controversial-project-2025-creator-35213359

yes, exactly - criminalizing porn and the obscene is the first step in Project 2025 to genocide trans people:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/17416590241312149

Pornography, he writes:

[is] manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children [. . .] It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed (Roberts, 2023: 5).

This invocation of pornography is intentionally broad, vague, and amorphous. By equating trans issues (“transgenderism” and “transgender ideology”) with pornography, child abuse, and misogyny, this vision takes one step toward the outlawing of trans people altogether. Roberts (2023) goes on to detail the draconian and restrictive mechanisms necessary for eradicating pornography and all that comes with it: “The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered” (p. 5). Such extreme rhetoric signals a no-holds barred approach to regulating gender, sexuality, and privacy. Aware that more left-leaning states would be unlikely to arrest trans people on such counts, the document later details a wider plan through which the Department of Justice would intervene and prosecute any local officials not willing to bring criminal action against LGBTQ people (Hamilton, 2023: 553).

This is basically how we ended up with the burqa. A woman's body is evil because it makes men unable to control their sexual urges, therefore women must be banned. Now, in Afghanistan, a woman's voice must not even be heard.

How long until the USA reaches that point?

For no reason whatsoever, I know there is a subset of adult artistic moving picture genres devoted to fully clothed activities.

Eh. This isn’t new. It’s one dipshit senator and one dipshit representative.

People have been trying to get porn banned in the US for as long as there’s been porn.

i live in such an atheist bubble. i'm constantly shaking my head at the fact that we haven't woken up to how many problems religion creates. every day that we don't do a massive purge and/or reeducation camp imprisonment of all theists allows this ridiculous charade to keep going.

They are jumping the gun a little here. Project 2025 has declaring basically anything a transperson does as pornographic first then this. Guess some incompetence in execution shouldn't be surprising from their crowd.

Obscenity isn’t protected by the First Amendment

Is this the same Constitution that they're pissing on with everything else? It most certainly does protect it. Do NOT use the "think of the children" shit when your actions towards children safety has been the complete opposite. Hell, I saw news today of further cuts being pursued for Medicare, as well as past things on cutting school lunches and of course the destruction of the DoE. You do NOT care about children, do not bring them into this.

Will no one think of the children? Whenever these people say something, the best strategy is look in the opposite direction they are pointing you. In this instance, they are working to pass child-bride full-legalization. They're definitely thinking of the children.

When you use AI to write your bills and tell it to implement Project 2025.

Guns fall into children's hands all the time, something that literally kills, and they don't seem to give a shit about that

Your observation is eternal. During the American Revolution one person noted (I forgot who) that the people who clamoured the loudest for liberty also happened to be the hardest slave drivers.

Gotta love it how one party steals rights away from Americans and it’s always the one party that screams the loudest about “muh rights!”

It's funny, because back in the 80s, Democrats were the moral scalds and Republicans were the libertarian hedonists.

Then they swapped territory and reversed their attitudes towards sex work.

I am so thankful that our oppressors are morons.

That's because they WANT riots in the streets. Perfect reason to suspend the constitution and impose martial law. An orange turn needs his crown ya know.

I've been saying this for awhile; I think Trump wasn't supposed to win this term. He looked legit surprised when he won, and I think the Republicans were planning for four more years to really solidify their plans, and get more right wing gov'ts in power first (like Canada). Trump winning pushed everything up four years early, and made them basically have to speed-run to the goal. They went mask off so fast, and they're driving everything through before it would have been ideal. It's now or never.

Modern consumerism is singlehandedly a good enough distraction...

Yep, this is 100% why I hope they actually pull off the porn ban. You want to see MAGA flip faster than Simone, you take away their porn.

My state is on the verge of passing two anti-trans bills but we love watching femboys fuck. This is a nation founded on hypocrisy and that's never changed.

Didn't you get the update? It is "Land of the formerly free" now. Was in an Executive Order somewhere, probably.

The War on drugs is supported by both mainstream political parties.

What these "people" are doing has nothing to do with conservative values anymore either, these "people" are modern day regressives. They want to drag the nation back about a century. Women without a vote, black people again as slaves, and queer people back in the closet.

Conservatives keep saying they’re for the common people.

They are, they just didn't say ouotloud that are for the common people being jailed/deported.

They think they know how the poor people should act and they want to kill them if they disagree.

If only there was another way to increase the population like accepting people from other nations. Too bad.

Unfortunately those that believe in their ideology will keep having kids. As an anecdote, my Trump loving cousins have a total of 18 kids compared to the total of 2 for those that aren't. Most of those kids will go on to follow their parents political and ideological beliefs.