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4d ago

Chuckles the Clown strikes again

I thought FUD was a cryptobro term.

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The post did not necessarily convince me to block the HC instance, but the instance admin of it coming in here to combat every comment critical of the instance sure has lol.
- Same - just defederated them from Feddit.dk. What actually convinced me to defederate was this comment. That kind of "hands off" moderation approach just seems irresponsible to me.
  
  Tak :)

Hmm, I’m still new to Lemmy. How do I block an instance?
- But their chaos is so hilarious 😐
- Some apps can block instances iirc. But unfortunately lemmy's actual instance filter is busted as shit.
  I opened an issue about this, so we'll be getting it in 1.0/1.1.0.
- If you use an app like Voyager, you can block entire instances. There are also web interfaces that allow it as well.
  
  This was news to me and super helpful! In the Voyager app, go to Settings > Filters & Blocks. There will be a section called "Blocked Instances" and a button that says "Add Instance". Click the button, and there is a search suggestion box, so you just type "hil" and the first result is "hilariouschaos.com" and you can just click that result and you're done!
- Unfortunately you really can't, not trivially I mean. Also, lemm.ee's whole schtick is that they don't defederate from anyone.
  There is a "instance block" in Lemmy, but horribly misnamed as all it does is mute communities but still allows users to troll you from the instance in other communities, such as this one
  Move to PieFed, which allows true blocking of all users from an instance, without needing admin approval
  Stay on Lemmy and switch to either the Sync or Connect app - I've not heard of any others that can do this but if someone knows of one please tell me?
  Ask your instance to defederate from them - except for Lemm.ee that's extremely unlikely to happen
  Switch to another instance that has already done so
  Develop a web browser filter, probably using something like Ublock
  Create your own instance, and then you can deferate anyone you want
  Lemmy is fairly authoritian for non-admin end-users, but we use what is provided to us (which is why I'm ecstatically happy with the more fully featured PieFed!:-).

Didn't know much about hilariouschaos, but it's definitely an instance I will be blocking after reading this thread. Any instance willing to put up with nazis should be shunned and other instances should defederate from them.
Edit: Apparently I already blocked the instance when I joined lemmy. Go figure.
- They’re a troll instance. Think 4Chan but without the wit.
- You are spreading lies, HC does not put up with nazis. You will notice that nobody can seem to find any nazi content, despite claims that we are literally a nazi bar.
  
  You're missing the point.
  The "Nazi bar" analogy has nothing to do with literal Nazis except by way of explanation. People tried to explain this to you already.
  The point is, when you allow people into your space who nobody wants anything to do with (and specifically because they will tend to attack those people and also they believe they are subhuman), you have decided that your space will be only for those people. Because everyone else will leave. If you don't want that to happen, don't let those people into your space. Up to you.

I saw someone say that Hilarious Chaos is just a rebranding of Exploding Heads and it started making sense as to why it looked so familiar. I blocked them.
- Well that someone was simply wrong. HC is not a rebrand of anything, we just don't censor based on political lines.
  Anyone is welcome to start any kind of community they wish on HC and moderate as they see fit, within instance rules.
  
  False chucklefuck the clown banned me because I called out their hypocrisy
  
  Lol. You are making this argument...in a thread showing actual proof that you censor based on political lines.
  Ever heard of the Streisand Effect??? Idiot.
  
  So where do we petition to add them to the mass defederation list with exploding heads?

As so often happens:
“We’re just tired of these THOUGHT POLICE and want to make a place where we can finally just hang out and be comfortable without the fun police hanging over our shoulders censoring every word we’re free speech warriors come join us we’re better”
Turned out to mean:
“I want to be an asshole, you have no rights whatsoever, that’s a given and fuck you, and if anyone EVER infringes on any of my rights real or imagined in any way no matter how trivial, I will throw a hissy fit of thermonuclear proportions”
(I’m just assuming that this PTB is indicative of hilariouschaos / exploding-heads in general, I don’t have a very strong read on what they’re about. But I think it is a safe working theory.)
- HC is not exploding heads. The actions of a community do not represent the instance itself.
  You are welcome to start your own community on HC and moderate it as you see fit.
  
  The actions of a community do not represent the instance itself.
  Yeah, no, they do. That's kind of the point of administration. By allowing actions to take place on the instance, those actions can become representative of the instance. The fact that you're an inattentive or uncaring administrator doesn't absolve you of the actions taken under your watch.
  
  HC is not exploding heads.
  Yes it is.
  The actions of a community do not represent the instance itself.
  I mean that's fair, but also, this is the #2 community there. The #1 community is an AI news summary place made by a person I find notably weird and disagreeable.
  You are welcome to start your own community on HC and moderate it as you see fit.
  Yeah, I'll get right on that. It sounds delightful.
  
  But then they'd have to have a community there? Idk why anyone would want to have one there

In Internet forum terms, "FUD" got popularized in the context of Microsoft's anti-Linux propaganda from the '90s and 2000s.
- that’s just when you first heard it
- Fear uncertainty and doubt to be used as a psyop was originally outlined in ww 2 sabotage manual

Yeah, hilariouschaos is a bit of a special instance.
- Special
  Is that what we’re calling it?
- Several instances recognize it as a rebrand of the infamous explodingheads instance. I suggest admins defed and users block it.
  
  I wasn't expecting their admin to come here to try and say it's not lol
  https://hilariouschaos.com/post/2186/9314
  
  That is blatantly false, spread by people who can't understand why an instance wouldn't censor based on political lines.
  HC has never been anything like exploding heads.

I am willing to believe there is MASSIVE overlap between cryptobros and lemmy's right-wing users.
- The venn diagram between right-libertarians, cryprobros and alt-right fascists is practically a circle
  
  Libertarians and crypto bros are both fans of the government and regulation when it helps them.
  
  Calling the libertarians fascists that's a new one

Wow I haven’t seen HC in a long time since I blocked them.
Which was, almost, immediately.
- I don't even think I had a specific reason to block them. Their vibes were just way off.

- You preemptively made a screenshot?
  
  That was right after it was removed sometimes the timestamps get a little strange on Voyager unless I reset the app.
  
  I mean it’s clear that it was justified

Not just PTB stupid PTB

Lol what a PTB.

Hilarious chaos is more about chaos than hilarity. I'm so glad we can filter instances in Voyager.
- The chaos is pretty hilarious.
  
  If you’re 12.

I thought FUD was a cryptobro term.
fyi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty,_and_doubt
- the similar formulation "doubts, fears, and uncertainties" first appeared in 1693.
  Wasn't bitcoin invented in 1691 though?
  
  DFU doesn't have the same ring to it though.
  
  Oh shit, I forgot about that!

"SatansMaggotyCumFart"
What the hell is even that?
- Four word poetry
  
  You are just fart biased.
- I mean, it is quite clearly described.

"Logs"
- Oh look it's Fondant.
  
  :shakes_fist:

Putting this here for anyone who needs to see it:
A community on an instance =/= the actual instance, nor is it an endorsement by the instance.
Anyone can start any community they wish on HC, so long as they stick to the rules.
- A community on an instance =/= the actual instance, nor is it an endorsement by the instance.
  Putting this here for anyone who needs to see it: If you are on an instance that allows Nazis and/or Nazi communities then you are on a Nazi instance.
- Doesn’t tolerating capricious and censorious moderation violate the principles you seem to be implicitly defending? I don’t really understand this mentality of neutrality towards authoritarian behavior.
  
  I don't like it, but I'm not there to moderate communities. What I care about is my instance rules being adhered to. This is why I point out that anyone is free to start their own community and moderate it as they see fit.
  There is no universal way to moderate a community, you are going to piss someone off no matter how you do it. If I got personally involved, then all communities would be my communities - that's really not good, nor feasible.

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