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    This country (the USA) was founded in REVOLT

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  • A very specific revolt, not general revolt. There were lots of revolts happening. The native inhabitants were revolting against the white European settlers. The black slaves were revolting against the white European settlers. Hell, the poor working class white European settlers were revolting against the slave-owning white European settlers.

    The USA was founded in the revolt of the rich white landowning slave-owning European settlers against the British monarchy because the rich white landowning slave-owning European settlers believed the crown was violating their rights to commit genocide against the natives, steal their land, and make super profits.

    The people who won had no problem crushing slave revolts, indian revolts, and working class revolts. By sheer numbers, the USA was built more on crushing revolt than on revolt itself.

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    This country (the USA) was founded in REVOLT

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  • They did, they just didn't write it specifically in the foundational documents. It's in their letters, Jefferson in particular. It's in the Federalist Papers. It's all over their literature.

  • Why is Western double standard so normalized? If Russia or Iran did 1% of what Israel & US do, the outrage would be endless. Why do rules only apply to them?

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  • Every single president incrementally adds to the fascism of America. Reagan's neoliberal abandonment of Americans who needed help and the massive consolidation of the financialization of the economy. Bush 1 was the first formal fusion of the CIA and the presidency. Clinton, as governor, had black house slaves, and as president, sexually dominated at least one subordinate that we know of. He also was at the helm as NATO when it expanded to become an offensive, and not purely defensive, transnational nuclear military. Bush 2 created free speech zones, oversaw massive domestic spying and immunity for companies who broke the law, the opening up of private for-profit military collaboration beyond anything previously seen, and of course all the torture and war crimes. Obama expanded the president's power to just kill whoever wherever whenever through drone strikes, killing civilians at weddings and funerals (and funerals for those who died at the weddings), and even killing US citizens abroad.

    not saying all your points aren’t true. But they don’t determine fascism

    When you save 10k Nazis from justice, that's not a tell for you? When you and the Soviets rebuild Germany, and your side has openly former Nazi politicians taking political office while the Soviet side purged all fascists, that's not a tell for you? When you form NATO and staff it with former Nazi officers, that's not a tell? And when you direct NATO to organize, fund, arm, and manage neo-nazi groups and former Nazi collaborators into standing militias and terrorist cells, that's not a tell?

    is the personal Führer cult in combination with the open hate of democracy and ‘might makes right’ philosophy.

    Have you been to the US? Are you aware of the insane cult of personality we have around nearly every single US president? The media spectacle? The us vs them? The angel/devil photography? Do you know what we teach our kids in school about Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln? Like, Jefferson is literally worse than Trump. Trump was a consumer in Epstein's ring. Jefferson literally ran slave plantations, bred slaves for sale, raped his slaves and sold the children that came from those rapes, and tried but failed to use his political power to ban the transatlantic slave trade so that his slaves would fetch a higher price and make him richer.

    Obama ordered crimes against humanity and was the head of an imperial engine, but his government still showed allegiance to democracy and to institutions instead of persons.

    So you're saying aesthetically he wasn't openly fascist but in actuality, he was? Fascism is determined by aesthetics for you?

    You can have a fully democratic empire conquering the world and it still wouldn’t be fascist

    This is such a contradictory sentence. No, you cannot both have a fully democratic empire and conquer the world. That would be a partially democratic empire. Specifically it would only be democratic for the "in-group". For the US, that in-group is white, male, hetero, patriarchal, Euro-Centric, Anglo-Centric, property owning, capitalistic, and Christian. That's LITERALLY fascism when it's coupled with killing millions of people to maintain your empire. It's also the farthest thing from "fully democratic" when democracy works for the ultraminority white supremacists and everything is might-makes-right full on subjugation of the rest of the world, including the indigenous people you displaced and continue to oppress daily.

    And don't forget that the US imprisons more of its own people than anyone else in the world (El Salvador and Cuba just passed us for 1 year, but are historically lower) and that's JUST in prison. The parole system, where we surveil their entire lives, garnish their wages, tell them where to be when and then throw them back in prison for any missed requires, is TWICE AS LARGE as our prison population. We are the world leader in dominating our own people.

    But that's not fascist enough with the aesthetics?

    But now they fully took off any masks of democracy the Democrats were smart enough to still keep on.

    They still haven't taken the masks off. Just watch them in the UN. Watch them on television. Read their papers. YOU have figured out that they're lying. But they're still actively lying. You are just finally part of the group that sees it. Other people, particular the victims of US imperialism, have seen it for literally decades. You were part of the group of people, as was I, that thought "Death to America" and calling America "The Great Satan" was only done by people who don't understand us and who are actually evil in their hearts. You are realizing that they're right, but you think it's only really appropriate for THIS administration. It's not. Keep reading history. Keep analyzing the situation. We were founded by people who trafficked humans, raped them, and tortured them. We are still being run by people who do those same things. We were founded by people who were traveling around the world killing anyone that wasn't a white Christian man and convincing other white Christian men on the basis of their white Christianity to help them do it. We are still operating a country that follows that exact same program.

    EuroFascism as we know it from Italy and Germany emerged from the European context. It was quite literally European settler colonialism applied on the continent. The first gas chambers were invented by the French to kill masses of Haitian freedom fighters. The US was a fascist apartheid regime for most of its history. Every single town or city called "Fort Something" was literally a military base for killing every single Indian that didn't manage to run away.

    It's ALWAYS been this bad. The way we use language it's almost as if fascism was new when Hitler and Mussolini did their thing. But the reality is that they were just applying the logic of their context, which was the same logic America, Canada, Australia, and the rest of the settler colonies were founded on. Every. Single. One.

  • Iranian state media confirms death of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei

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  • 86 year old AND 2 subsequent generations of his bloodline - his daughter and his granddaughter

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    The reason Trump hyperfocuses on decapitation strikes as the sole instrument of regime change is to him only strongmen make things happen and governments are illegitimate illusions

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  • Israel has been doing decapitation strikes as a core strategy for decades now. It's not a Trump phenomenon

  • Myanmar military airstrikes on trading site kills more than two dozen

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  • Why is Western double standard so normalized? If Russia or Iran did 1% of what Israel & US do, the outrage would be endless. Why do rules only apply to them?

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  • What about our current government makes it fascist that our previous governments did not have? I ask because under the administration GWB and Cheney they came up with a list of 7 countries to topple and Iran was the last one. The listed included Libya, which Obama and HRC executed, with HRC literally gloating at the report of the 70+ year old leader of Libya being killed by being sodomized by a bayonet when she said "We came! We saw! He died!".

    People have been analyzing the double standards of the US for literal decades. The US was an apartheid state not that long ago. The Third Reich studied US law and culture as the model for building an effective apartheid state so they could do it in German and hopefully extend it to Russia when they eventually won the war.

    Truman collaborated with the Pope to save 10K Nazis from justice, relocating them all over the Western hemisphere, protecting them, funding them, etc.

    So why are you only saying the current government?

  • who else wants a ride?

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  • Or he is brought into fake SCIFs in Mar-a-Lago for photo shoots because he's not actually making any of the decisions he's just responsible for telling everyone that he's making the decisions and in fact the decisions are being made by the joint chiefs

  • What if today's Iran is resigned to a long, hellish war with the US?

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  • Uh. It includes Putin. Did you just miss it?

  • who else wants a ride?

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  • I thought China and Russia were allies of Iran and didn't want the US to kill Khamenei. Oh well. No cognitive dissonance here. Trump just does what he's told by people who wouldn't tell him to do those things. Makes sense

  • Why do you think so many people on the Marxist left defend Stalinism?

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  • Seriously. How are you able to say these things without a hint of self awareness. You know what it looks like to enter a war voluntarily? It looks like the US and Israel bombing Iran. It looks like the Third Reich invading every country on the path to Russia. Like what the fuck do you imagine you are saying? The USSR knew that engaging in war with the Third Reich was a necessity as soon as they got a copy of Mein Kampf. It's such a ridiculous statement to say that because the USSR joined the war out of necessity that therefore it is not appropriate to consider that their defeat of the Nazis was a good thing that the USSR did. Ludicrous.

    Most leftists do NOT ignore the flaws of the USSR. In fact, those flaws are studied as part of the process of historical materialism. For example, every leftist knows that Stalin was a violent paranoid control freak. Every leftist knows that the repression of religion was a major mistake. Hell, even the USSR figured that one out and reversed the policy.

    If you think leftists ignore the USSR's faults, that's on you. But if your problem is actually that you believe the faults of the USSR erase anything good that could possibly be attributed to them, then that's a different problem and it's intellectually dishonest to say that the only proper way of acknowledging the flaws of the USSR is to condemn the entire project, denounce it, and never use it as an example of something good. Those positions are not equivalent

  • Why do you think so many people on the Marxist left defend Stalinism?

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  • Stop. That question assumes way too much. So let's unpack it and reverse it on you.

    Are you saying that ending the treaty when the UK entered the war would indicate to you that the USSR was a righteous ally of good and true humanity but that not ending the treat at that time would indicate to you that they were actually Nazi collaborators or at best willing to let the Nazis take over the entire world as long as they didn't get attacked (which they knew would happen because again, the Third Reich was abundantly clear that destroying the USSR was its number 1 goal)?

    Because if you can think through the answer to that, we can answer your question, which is that the USSR had always known that the UK was not ally, and it knew that because the UK and its allies, including the US, invaded Russia after WW1 to try to stop the communists from forming the USSR. The USSR, however, didn't think the UK would be so evil as to literally turn a blind eye, and even financially support the fascists.

    After the USSR sought to ally with the West to defeat the Nazis and they said "nah", even you can see that the USSR was completely on its own to survive and the UK entering the war, while the majority of Nazi forces were on the Eastern front, did not change the strategic landscape enough to make the USSR capable of surviving an open conflict with the Third Reich in the fall of 1939.

    Between 1939 (UK declaring) and 1941 (USSR declaring), the Red Army quadrupled in size. The idea that the USSR should have just decided to fight in 1939, when it was 25% the size it was when it eventually won is literally the same idea as the USSR should have lost the war but done so while adhering to your definition of morally good. It's daft.

  • Why do you think so many people on the Marxist left defend Stalinism?

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  • So did the USSR not defeat 80% of the Nazi military, liberate every territory East of Berlin that the Nazis had captures, capture Berlin, and liberate the concentration camps? Or did they do that but you need to make sure everyone is aware that they only did that to protect themselves and shouldn't be considered heroes?

    I mean, cuz what it sounds like you're saying is that defeating the Nazis isn't enough, you actually also have to be morally good according to a standard that you will never admit the USSR into but also could never apply to any country in the history of the world.

  • The problem with socialism

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  • Absolute comedy gold

  • The problem with socialism

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  • I'm not angry, Lu. I'm just disappointed

  • Why do you think so many people on the Marxist left defend Stalinism?

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  • I wish you all the best in your rage-induced commenting spree where you pretend to be smarter than people because they don't accept your framing. Ta! See you around the other comments your chasing me down on.

  • The problem with socialism

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  • Oh hey, I got you mad enough to chase me around now, eh? Welcome! I like that your primary beef with me is that you think I can't read but then you post this particular link. Very well done! Do continue, please.

  • The problem with socialism

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  • You do realize that the border is with Tibet, right? An autonomous region within China that has never been recognized as a state with firm boundaries in all of human history. The border is contentious because borders are contentious. As much as you might not like border disputes, there is nothing socialist or anti-socialist about having border disputes. Nepal doesn't want to make a big diplomatic stink over the situation. You want to psychologize them as fearful of China and therefore China isn't socialist?

    You're not making any sense. China is not engaged in imperial capitalist expansion simply because there's a few hundred acres being built on by the TAR along their own border in ways that violate the border. That's a resolvable tension and doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

  • Why do you think so many people on the Marxist left defend Stalinism?

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  • So nothing. Got it.

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    The perilous shift in U.S. weapons sales to Taiwan - US selling weapons that threaten mainland

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    The perilous shift in U.S. weapons sales to Taiwan - US selling weapons to attack mainland directly

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