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4mo ago

Funny bit idea: Pop the US tech industry bubble by showing the Americans that they can’t even compete at something they thought they were generations ahead on, and make it strictly open source

2 Trillion dollars in U.S. Stock market cap erased in a day by DeepSeek, which was released only a day after the US announced a 500 billion dollar investment in AI.

DeepSeek only invested 5.6 million dollars in computing power.

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Has anyone tried to save the stock market by calling DeepSeek woke yet
- Reddit is wall to wall tinyman square xinnie the pooh deepseek memes right now so we'll see if that pans out for them
  
  So much cope in the comments "Chyna is 40 years behind us!" and "It's easy to do when you steal!" I'm like brother look at Shenzhen and compare it to ANY US city.
  
  “Easy to do when you steal”, is pretty fucking rich coming from someone defending US tech companies.
  
  Also reveals that le epic science redditors don't actually care about science and human advancement. Everything is "stolen" in science, in that it builds on something someone else developed before you. Technological advancements have been getting "stolen" (sometimes more literally, other times more "ethically" or legitimately) since we were knapping rocks.
  Newton's original physics and calculus methods SUCK compared to modern physics (specifically "classical") and calculus methods, because we've had like 300 years to improve it. But you know redditors/westerners would be first to say Einstein stole from Westerners if he were East Asian.
  Also goes to show that the whole modern techbro "open source" knowledge thing isn't out of principle. Its to outsource labor whenever the labor doesn't produce an immediate value. Techbros should be happy the Chinese devs made it open source, because THEY CAN USE IT TOO. But nope, because they can't solely profit off it, they're mad.
  
  They really do apply different rules to AES. China is expected to reinvent mathematics to prove 1 + 1 = 2 or else it is stealing Western research
  
  Even during my short-lived time as a cs student there was a saying:
  “Good programmers write good code. Great programmers steal great code!” Capitalism’s logic is incompatible with the nature of knowledge itself. There’s so much inefficiency because people want to sit on and do nothing with their IPs or knowledge.
  Imagine if even your local community college could have the information to teach Harvard level classes at a fraction of the price?
  
  "If I have seen further, it is by stealing from the shoulders of giants"
  -Isaac Newton or something
  
  Also pretty fucking rich coming from people who have never not used the Arabic numeral system
  
  If you aren't stealing, you're doing it wrong
  
  “Easy to do when you steal” Nvidia pretty much announced today that what DeepSeek did they are incapable of at the present time
  
  TIL “stealing” is when you freely share knowledge and opportunities instead of hoard it or put it behind a paywall so only the rich can participate in society.
  
  Lmao meanwhile US AI companies be like "yes we scrape your data to train our AI. No we won't pay you for it or ask permission."
  
  Which is so funny in this situation because DeepSeek can be run without the internet and is completely open source so you can go in and remove any censors and use it offline to talk about the tiny man and see see pee all you want
  
  But if it doesn't inflict my personal combination of brainworms on everyone that uses it then what's the point?
  
  Reddit is wall to wall tinyman square xinnie the pooh deepseek memes right now so we'll see if that pans out for them
  It's a bold strategy Cotton
- Earlier today it was facing a cyberattack lmao so they tried it
  
  The great firewall paying off
  
  Is that why it was down?
  
  Yes. Nvidia alone is down 17% and has lost $560 billion in market value
  Oh wait I thought you were responding to the post in general asking about Nvidia. Yes, for some people that is why DeepSeek was down! my bad
- They have tried throwing "tinyman massacre" at it with varying results but it hasn't helped in alleviating the panic.

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