For Signal, they will know when and how often you receive Signal messages.

Notifications are used to "activate" the app on your device. Then it will connect to Signal servers and download the encrypted messages.

After the software on your device decrypted the message, then it has the sender details and message content.

There are settings to control how much of that information is used when creating the local notification. Because other apps might log notifications.

@jackalope
@L4s

That's terrifying for showing how little he understands about the problem he is attempting to solve.

Humans use up to four senses at times to accomplish the task of driving.

@mosiacmango
@cm0002

As for selecting an instance, if that is a barrier, then forcing users to create and use multiple accounts in different ways to see all the content they want to is an even larger hurdle to present to users.

One of the biggest problems with Mastodon is new users who think they need an account on every instance website they interact with.

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568

At best, it's an opportunity to organically introduce other types of content and the associated software to people through the social graph they chose to participate in.

If you did as you suggested, by adding posts / threads / communities / magazines without the consent of the users, that would indeed be a problem.

Preventing Mastodon users from seeing the content after they made the choice is also a problem.

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568
@ernest

I take it you weren't aware that Google Wave was based on XMPP.

https://www.networkworld.com/article/757722/opensource-subnet-nine-new-apps-that-show-off-the-power-of-google-wave.html

@onlinepersona

This is a good video explaining things, for anyone who doesn't know about the situation Apple created.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=BuaKzm7Kq9Q

Alternative 🔗:
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BuaKzm7Kq9Q
https://piped.video/watch?v=BuaKzm7Kq9Q

@helenslunch
@gregorum

Eventually, the list of things Samsung doesn't make is going to be shorter.

@Reverendender

I understand the point you were trying to make. You're just wrong, in my opinion.

You are also focusing on the wrong software.

Mastodon, as the place most people start with ActivityPub software, absolutely should be able to view other types of content.

The important point is to not force anyone to view that content or display it particularly badly.

When all I know about Kbin is that it doesn't work with my Mastodon account, why exactly do I use it?

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568
@ernest

Why don't you ask the Matrix team why they decided to re-invent XMPP and add a stupid HTTP API?

@onlinepersona
@netchami

Don't negotiate with or give in to terrorists!

@ohlaph

It's both amazing and annoying that Google is perfectly able to create useful apps for iOS (despite the huge limitations the OS imposes) but Apple can't figure out how to make any Android app that isn't utter crap with fewer restrictions imposed on them.

@d3Xt3r
@hesusingthespiritbomb

Technically we are federated, so why do Mastodonians interact so little with the Threadiverse?

I have a much simpler answer to this. Kbin doesn't allow me to follow (or even view) a lot of the content. Lemmy does better at this.

To be useful, I need to be able to follow magazines / communities without resorting to a web browser that doesn't have my account (and often won't show me the content).

The up voting mapping needs to be consistent too!

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568
@ernest

As a Mastodon user who follows Lemmy posts, I find Kbin integration insufficient to the task.

I want to read link aggregator posts in my Mastodon app, not a web browser.

As for long posts, Mastodon handles those just fine. App developers know there isn't a universal limit already.

@ThatOneKirbyMain2568
@ernest

Installing from F-Droid prevents sales like this from causing silent "upgrades" to advertising-infested versions.

@kpw

Done.

https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server

@MonkderZweite

There were two SMS mistakes by Signal:

1. https://signal.org/blog/goodbye-encrypted-sms/
2. https://signal.org/blog/sms-removal-android/

@MonkderZweite
@z0rg0n

Try out any of these:

Session @session
SimpleX @simplex
Threema @threemaapp

They all don't require a phone number, which makes them immediately better than Signal, for devices that don't have a SIM.

@rustyriffs
@utamtam

Here are the links to the documentation for these standards:

MLS - https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mls/documents/

Signal Protocol - https://www.signal.org/docs/

RCS - https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/rcs/universal-profile/ & https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/resources/rcs-up-2-4-uni/

@skullgiver

Accessing the keys from the server isn't really a mystery or hidden. It's technically possible for Apple to write software to query servers run by Google as well as any servers they created for themselves.

You don't need implementation source code when you have open standards already.

WhatsApp actually used Signal's development team to rollout the Signal protocol for them, but that app is still untrustworthy.

@skullgiver

What kind of openness are you hoping for? Google has built their solution with a bunch of already open pieces.

RCS + Signal protocol + MLS

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-messages-mls-3346918/

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/20/23801536/google-messages-app-mls-support-announce

@Ghostalmedia