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  • I wish the US would be held accountable to the same rules as every other country, but I don't think what you describe would happen. I don't think anybody wants to invade the US when the US has the most powerful military on the planet.

    As for NATO losing capabilities if the US leaves, sure. But it looks like the US doesn't really care about helping defend Europe anyway. Maybe at some point Europe will just have to focus on its own defence without the US. You say it would be "morally wrong" if a NATO country (e.g. the US) wouldn't fulfil its NATO commitments. Do we think Trump cares about morals though?

  • So even if the US invades Greenland, you want the US to stay in NATO? Also surely Europe should invest in increasing its independence from the US, given that the US is unreliable.

    NATO invading the USA will find tons of support when they get here

    Some Americans might support it, but I don't think it would happen. All the other NATO countries would not want to get into a conflict with the US.

  • The ones which I hope will take place... but again, who knows

  • I don't think NATO is going to occupy the USA. Maybe one measure that could be taken, if the US invades Greenland, would be to kick the US out of NATO. Then NATO can focus on protecting Europe, as well as Canada if they still want to be in it.

  • Throughout the history of the US they've gone from bad presidents to good presidents, from isolationist to internationalist. So I think it's possible that a better president will win in 2028. But who knows at this point.

  • The BBC did report on a UN commission saying that Israel committed genocide. Here's the headline:

    Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, UN commission of inquiry says

    As for the "Hamas-run health ministry", Hamas of course is not the government of all of Palestine. Some people might think the health ministry in Gaza is run by the Palestinian Authority, so the BBC is making clear that it's Hamas who runs it.

    What does it call the October 7 resistance? That’s right a “massacare”. What does it call Israel genociding 100.000 people in a concentration camp?

    In the article I just linked to, the BBC refers to October 7th as "the 7 October 2023 Hamas attacks", not as a "massacre". I don't know whether other articles use the word "massacre". As for "resistance", I'm not sure that killing civilians is a justified act of "resistance". Surely it is wrong to kill any civilian, whether they are Palestinian, or Israeli, or any nationality. Of course Palestine has faced conditions they shouldn't have faced (Israel shouldn't be blockading Gaza, Israel should recognise Palestinian statehood with the Palestinian Authority leading it), but I don't think the right answer to that is killing civilians.

    Anyway I originally just wanted to explain why the BBC doesn't condemn events in the news; they try to not morally judge the news they are reporting on. They might not always get it right though.

  • I really don't think the BBC is "pro-genocide". I think it's fair to criticise their reporting and say they're not getting the balance right in their reporting. But that doesn't mean they support genocide which is a very different accusation.

    That film, "Gaza: Medics Under Fire", was controversial. Maybe the BBC should have shown it. But they did allow the film to still be shown, by giving the rights of the film back to its producers, who then managed to air it on Channel 4. So it still appeared on free public TV.

    are you also a “moderatecentrist” regarding the genocide in Gaza?

    I think Israel's actions should not have been allowed, whether it's genocide or not. I think Netanyahu should face a war crimes trial. Also Israel should recognise Palestinian statehood, along the internationally recognised borders, with the Palestinian Authority leading Palestine. Also I think Hamas were morally wrong because I don't think it's right to kill civilians, whether they're Palestinian, Israeli, or any other nationality.

  • Interesting. I don't think the BBC is always going to be perfect with their reporting. They have extensively reported on suffering in Gaza though. Also I wonder how many of the emotive words, e.g. "murder", were being quoted from Israelis, rather than being the BBC's description of events.

  • I don't think the BBC is "pro-genocide". They reported a lot on the situation in Gaza, and the many people who died there, and Israelis trying to prevent food and medicine getting into Gaza.

  • Neither of those headlines uses the words "kidnap" or "terrorist". As for the word "massacre", you could say they're reporting in that sentence what Israel has told the BBC. So the BBC is reporting Israeli soldiers' use of the word "massacre".

  • I don't think the BBC do call Hamas a terrorist organisation. They might say something like "Hamas, designated by the UK government as a terrorist organisation" which is true - the UK government does have that designation. That isn't the same thing as the BBC calling Hamas a terrorist organisation.

    Also the BBC might not always get it right but I think they do aim for impartiality, and I think they do a good job most of the time. People on the far-right think the BBC is too much on the left, and people on the far-left think the BBC is too much on the right.

  • I will defend the BBC here. The BBC is supposed to be impartial and objective, so that viewers can draw their own conclusions. So they try to avoid terms which seem to come with a moral judgement attached. One such term is "terrorist". They instead say "militant", because as one of their journalists said, "calling someone a terrorist means you're taking sides".

    It's not the BBC's job to denounce developments in the news, or tell viewers what a moral outrage some piece of news is. The BBC's job is essentially "here is some newsworthy information that our audience might find interesting, and they can judge it however they wish".

    I guess it's how the BBC retains public support. If the BBC became partisan and only represented the views of half the British population, the other half would call for it to be dismantled.

  • I think this is the first time I've seen someone from Lemmy.ml admit something negative about China.

    To me it seems that the US, China, and Russia are all behaving imperialistically, which is pretty worrying.

  • I had a look at some stats regarding how EU citizens perceive the EU. I found this recent EU survey which interestingly shows that EU citizens trust the EU more than they trust their national governments:

    Also that link says that "74% say that, taking everything into account, their country has benefited from being a member of the EU". So perhaps the EU will survive and strengthen, despite its critics like those in the Trump administration.

  • I'm pretty sure Ukraine was not killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine before Russia invaded Ukraine. In fact I don't think Ukraine is killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine now - except for Russian soldiers who are trying to grab Ukrainian land by force and ultimately destroy the democratically elected government of Ukraine.

    Why do you think it's morally correct to invade a country, murder its soldiers and civilians, and try to grab its land?

  • I will assume good faith of your post. But I have a question. Do you think Russia is also "not compatible with the human species"? After all, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, and is still waging that invasion right now.

    Note: my last reply to you asking a similar question was removed by a mod because of "rule 8". I assume that's this one:

    No sectarianism, also when engaging with your fellow users please take the most charitable interpretation and assume good faith.

    I am trying to comply with that rule. I just genuinely would be interested to hear what you think of other global military actions that have a similarity to what the US has just done in Venezuela.

  • Maduro seemed like a dictator to me, but I don't know if unilaterally removing him from Venezuela by force is the best option. Ideally Venezuelans would decide for themselves who they want their leader to be.