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  • Trump drops threat of tariffs over Greenland

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  • World would be a ‘better place’ if US took over Greenland, says Nigel Farage

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  • Farage has more loyalty to Donald Trump than he does to the UK

  • EU Parliament freezes US trade deal ratification after Trump's tariff threats over Greenland

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  • If Trump keeps this up, you think Europe will have our back after another 9/11?

    You're right. As you said, Europeans supported the US after 9/11, and died in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to help the US. The only time that NATO article 5 has ever been invoked, it was Europe helping the US. I guess Trump and his administration have no appreciation of that at all.

    Like you say, Europeans will not want to help the US if a time comes. Public opinion will be against it.

  • 'Europe is at a total loss': Russia gloats over Greenland tensions

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  • Maybe people are wary of Russia because of Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine. And because of Russia's poisonings of enemies (Alexei Navalny in 2020, Sergei Skripal in 2018, Alexander Litvinenko in 2006). And because of Russia's many threats to nuke Europe (e.g. here).

  • UK should consider expelling US forces from British bases, says Zack Polanski

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  • Fair enough, maybe Lemmy.ml has more variety than I thought. Yes I think it makes sense for the UK to keep nukes as a deterrent. NATO has been good, but whether it will survive Trump's presidency, who knows.

  • UK should consider expelling US forces from British bases, says Zack Polanski

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  • I'm surprised to see someone from Lemmy.ml suggesting that the UK should keep its nuclear weapons, and stay in NATO. I thought Lemmy.ml was mostly far-left, anti-NATO, and anti-nukes.

  • Farage warns Trump invading Greenland 'would be the end of NATO'

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  • Not necessarily. Hopefully a more sensible US president will be elected in 2028, who won't be so hostile to the rest of NATO.

  • ‘Completely lost his mind’: Trump's 'deranged' letter sends shockwaves across the globe

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  • Maybe I shouldn't generalise, but when I have seen Lemmy.ml posters, they often take quite extreme positions. E.g. insisting it would have been wrong to vote for Harris (even as a lesser-of-two-evils), insisting that Chinese imperialism and Russian imperialism are justified (only western imperialism is evil, apparently). Stuff like that.

  • ‘Completely lost his mind’: Trump's 'deranged' letter sends shockwaves across the globe

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  • Lemmy.ml genuinely believes this. They will still insist that not supporting Harris was somehow the right decision.

  • Macron: ‘No amount of intimidation’ will change EU nations’ course on Greenland

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  • The economic damage to Europe would be high if that were to happen. Also Europe wants to keep the US onside for defence cooperation.

    In an ideal world, if Europe were all-powerful, I'm sure Europe would want to cut ties with the US as soon as possible.

  • Farage warns Trump invading Greenland 'would be the end of NATO'

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  • I guess we're now going to see what will happen given the Greenland situation. Of course I don't want the US to be a dictatorship, and I don't want them to start expanding against international law. But I don't think the rest of NATO is going to militarily fight the US. The US obviously would have a much stronger hand in any conflict so a conflict would surely be pointless. Death and destruction for no gain, since the US would win anyway.

    Perhaps more likely, if the US does invade Greenland, is that NATO in its current form would break up. A Republican congressman has said this sort of thing: "for [Trump] to militarily invade [Greenland] would... end up abolishing Nato as we know it".

  • What Is 'Pathways' And Who Is 'Amelia?' The Controversial Memes About The Viral U.K. Anti-Immigration Goth Girl Explained

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  • It's just right-wing keyboard warriors wishing they had an anti-immigration girlfriend who looks like that character

  • We need to back ‘patriotic’ winners to build the UK’s first £1tn tech giant, British AI expert says

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  • If the UK is serious about creating "$100 billion-plus" companies which rival "Microsoft, Google, Nvidia and the like" then maybe the UK should rejoin the EU and help to create big European tech companies.

    Look at Airbus, a big European company which does very well. They're registered as a European company rather than a company of any particular nation. They have operations across Europe. Maybe that large scale is what allows them to be so successful.

  • Farage warns Trump invading Greenland 'would be the end of NATO'

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  • I wish the US would be held accountable to the same rules as every other country, but I don't think what you describe would happen. I don't think anybody wants to invade the US when the US has the most powerful military on the planet.

    As for NATO losing capabilities if the US leaves, sure. But it looks like the US doesn't really care about helping defend Europe anyway. Maybe at some point Europe will just have to focus on its own defence without the US. You say it would be "morally wrong" if a NATO country (e.g. the US) wouldn't fulfil its NATO commitments. Do we think Trump cares about morals though?

  • Farage warns Trump invading Greenland 'would be the end of NATO'

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  • So even if the US invades Greenland, you want the US to stay in NATO? Also surely Europe should invest in increasing its independence from the US, given that the US is unreliable.

    NATO invading the USA will find tons of support when they get here

    Some Americans might support it, but I don't think it would happen. All the other NATO countries would not want to get into a conflict with the US.

  • The painful questions for Nato and the EU as Trump threatens Greenland

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  • The ones which I hope will take place... but again, who knows

  • Farage warns Trump invading Greenland 'would be the end of NATO'

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  • I don't think NATO is going to occupy the USA. Maybe one measure that could be taken, if the US invades Greenland, would be to kick the US out of NATO. Then NATO can focus on protecting Europe, as well as Canada if they still want to be in it.

  • The painful questions for Nato and the EU as Trump threatens Greenland

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  • Throughout the history of the US they've gone from bad presidents to good presidents, from isolationist to internationalist. So I think it's possible that a better president will win in 2028. But who knows at this point.

  • BBC 'bans' journalists from saying US 'kidnapped' Maduro, leaked email shows

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