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For sure! I’ll do that today.

Is that FDM or resin? If it's FDM, that's extremely impressive! They're great regardless, a big fan of classic red skeletons, but on FDM that would be a mighty feat.

Thank you! I actually have a Google doc setup with mostly links to various 15mm minis and sculpts that work well at 15mm, and am still testing out my 15mm measure stick to get it the way I want it.
As for terrain, the best part of 15mm Frostgrave is that terrain is super abundant because hobbyist stores carry a ton of it from Railroad and historical wargaming, and 3D printing 15mm terrain (FDM) is really cheap and scales super well from 28mm, unlike 28mm minis which can be hit or miss at 15mm.

I’m hoping to post proper reviews here soon, but my general feeling has been that the more recent supplements have been the most enjoyable ones for me personally. Wildwoods particularly is probably the best one yet, just for the general freedom and diverse options, but I’m also a fan of the vampires added by Blood Legacy and generally find most of the second edition supplements to be the most experimental and thus most interesting to try out. Definitely would grab Wildwoods first if you don’t have it already.
I’m actually working on printable treasure cards currently, and have a little excel sheet at the moment. The sheet and cards are both unwieldy and I’m tempted to make a software tool to handle it instead but it’s a lot to jot down and I’d wanna see if others were interested in such a tool first.

I'd still say Citadel's contrast paint has a slight edge over Army Painter, even their 2.0 formulation. That said, I actually don't know if I'd say I would recommend Citadel's contrast instead of AP2.0 for newcomers, for a couple of big reasons:
- Cost - Army Painter is about half the cost. That means twice the amount of paint for the same price, and that means more colours to choose from. For a lot of beginners, the quality of the paint isn't the limiting factor, it's the colour choices. You quickly realize that if you want to paint a variety of different minis, you need a variety of colours, and that adds up pretty fast if you stick with just Citadel.
- Settling - Contrast is notoriously quick to settle on the bottom of the pot. With some colours it's bad enough that I have to use a stick to stir up the bottom of the pot. If you're painting infrequently as a newcomer, you'll likely experience this every time you paint. No matter what paint you use, you should probably shake your paints, but in the case of Citadel contrast paints, sometimes it's multiple minutes and still no homogenization. Blender balls help, but those are yet another cost barrier to entry, as Army Painter includes those for free inside their paints.
- Flow - For experienced painters, the flow properties of Citadel contrast is nice, as it allows for wet blending. It's a criticism of AP2.0 that they dry relatively quickly. For newcomers who won't be doing wet blending, this is a benefit you pay for with Citadel's higher price, but don't get to take advantage of. Like buying the highest end graphics card just to play Minecraft, for instance.
- Pot vs Dropper - This is a subjective thing, but having used both pots like Citadel's, and droppers like Army Painters (for use with palettes), I find the latter to be much easier to use. Citadel pots sometimes don't stay open, close while you're using the paint, and because their "paint lip" can only hold a small amount of paint, you have to refill the lip frequently or dip directly into the pot. You can pour paint out onto a palette, but there is a reason the "spilling nuln oil all over your desk is a right of passage" meme is a thing.
- Consistency - Citadel contrast colours vary tremendously in their flow properties. Some colours are very watery and thin, and flow like water, and others are thick and viscous and dry slowly. Some contrast significantly into a kind of hue gradient, others contrast straight to black, others contrast barely at all. It's a learning curve for sure, but Army Painter's speed paints are generally all more consistent with one another and have a much more consistent result. The skill ceiling is lower, and the effects you can get are much less pronounced, and thus AP2.0 paints do tend to give a certain "look" that you can't change much, but as a beginner, this is probably preferable.
As for the painting handles, YMMV. I own one, but as other hobbyists will tell you, the handle does restrict the base, which you do usually paint. It's also kind of expensive. Personally, while I have one, I end up sticking to just grabbing a dowel from the hobby store, or any other handle shaped thing, and sticking a bit of blue tack (sticky tack, teacher's tack) on the end and plop the mini that way. You could also use a metal rod and put magnets on the base of your minis as is common, but that's a bit of a higher barrier to entry.
Really, I think your best bet is to buy a basic D&D set of minis, as they're accessible and cheap, and you usually get two or three, and then buy a few individual colours from either company to test how you individually like them. You can always use both, for example, and I find that I still really like to use Citadel's "Skeleton Horde" for all my skeletons, but use AP2.0 for most other things.
Just make sure if you do test out individual paints, that you're getting the AP2.0 formulation specifically, as I'm not sure how widely available the new version is.

Forest Dragon, Excellent Miniatures, & 15mm Frostgrave

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A quick showcase of some miniatures I recently got around to painting!

Frostgrave: Mortal Enemies" Open for Pre-Order
A new supplement for Frostgrave is now open for pre-order. From the Osprey Games site description:

Frostgrave: Mortal enemies
Enhance your Frostgrave campaigns with recurring villains that grow more powerful over time and give your wizards somewhere to hide with expanded rules for bases.
On the violent and deadly streets of the Frozen City, feuds and vendettas are commonplace. Wizards may start out focused on discovery and exploration, fighting when necessary for survival or to win possession of some long-lost artefact or grimoire, but such battles can swiftly become intensely personal. Competitors become adversaries and, as the cycle of violence continues, some wizards lose sight of their original goals and focus their efforts on the elimination of their hated foes – their mortal enemies.
This supplement for Frostgrave: Fantasy Wargames in the Frozen City presents rules for creating recu

I would actually recommend something else entirely! For beginners, one of the best types of paints to ease into the hobby is a type of paint known as a "contrast" or "speed paint". There are a number of brands that have paints like these. The paints are a bit thinner than normal paint, and pool into recesses of the model, creating a natural gradient of shade on the model that simulate highlights and shadow. Citadel is Games Workshop's brand of paints, and they're quite well regarded, but otherwise fairly expensive. For beginners, I'd recommend Army Painter, as they just released a new line of "speed paints" (their contrast paint equivalent) called "2.0" and my personal experience with the line has been very good for the price.
https://www.thearmypainter.com/shop/us/wp8059p
I'd recommend giving at least one Citadel contrast paint a try, just to experience it, but I'd definitely avoid the Reaper stuff as it tends to be very low quality and overpriced for what you get.
You can grab a few miniatures on eBay fairly cheaply, but if you want, I have some models I can send your way free of charge as well, if you'd like something to test your painting skills on, as the Army Painter sets don't include miniatures by default.
Reaper miniatures are a bit rough, and don't lend themselves to beginners due to the age of the sculpts.

Bricks & Blocks Gaming: Infestation

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Stargrave: Last Prospector Battle #7
Glad to see more videos by B&B!

I'm not sure if nerdswire.de is exactly a reputable news site. While this is a real article, and a real interview, the original news and interview is from SemiAnalysis .

15mm Skeleton Warrior


cross-posted from: https://tabletop.place/post/2033
Recently been painting up Forest Dragon's Warmaster miniatures scaled to 15mm for custom scaled Frostgrave and Oathmark, and wanted to try out Army Painter's new 2.0 speedpaints, and I've been pleasantly surprised by the results! They dry a bit faster than I'd like, to the point of drying on-brush, but other than that, no complaints.
Still needs basing!

15mm Skeleton Warrior


Recently been painting up Forest Dragon's Warmaster miniatures scaled to 15mm for custom scaled Frostgrave and Oathmark, and wanted to try out Army Painter's new 2.0 speedpaints, and I've been pleasantly surprised by the results! They dry a bit faster than I'd like, to the point of drying on-brush, but other than that, no complaints.
Still needs basing!

Welcome - New Users!


Hey everybody!
I am Loriborn, and I'm the caretaker of The Tabletop Place, a Lemmy instance dedicated to the support of communities and discussion surrounding boardgames, tabletop games, roleplaying games, and all related interests. We have a number of rules you can find on our home page, but more than anything else, we encourage civil discourse and want to maintain a healthy and welcoming environment for our members. I currently also moderate r/frostgrave, and run the Frostgrave.net wiki.
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