I don't follow, sorry. In the meantime I put up an instance. Check out https://freebay.giftedmc.com/

The project is pretty small but I'm fairly confident it will grow.

I'll test it for some time and thing about pro's and cons of working with this project instead of forking or building something new.

Keep your rhetoric. Neither did you show issues nor are there any other folks who were called naysayers because except you, most people were just constructive. Its not hard to do, try it some time.

But now get off of my feed. Byee

See! I fully agree on the social aspects of your ideals. I would like to give my opinion on your points. Please read them as ideas, not a form of diminishing your thoughts.

Yeah we all have to work (or contribute to society by our possible means) that's a given I think.

Actually, i dont think we do. We produce a lot more than we need (food for 10 billion people) and a lot of crap that only fuels consumerism. Not saying there is an alternative yet but maybe we can agree on "some people definitely need to work for us to survive and thrive."

No ultra rich people

Fully agree

(but you need to dream, so no communist pay either).

But do we? Or is it just a concept we use to keep the current situation going? Would we not dream if we just had the same?

UBI that covers basic food & housing. Art and science as the goal of society (after taking care of everyone).

100% agree

The problem is what to do with all egomaniacs, is there enough benevolent people or will nobody become a dentist if you don't need to work (that much)?

would you rather do an easier job that one you have passion and skills for if they were paid the same? I agree that moving trash or working in the sewers should potentially be paid extra. I think currently, education being expensive, doctors are kept scarce. Make it free and watch.

I mean lots of people get up in the morning and spends their whole life working, because of some crazy angry people (don't believe me? Go work in some big companies).

I have. Huge companies are cancer. Nothing more.

How do we re-train those people, how do we keep an army? Lots and lots of open ended questions here

from the bottom up, as always. We vote as left as possible (those who still can). We demand UBI, free education, free public transport, fair taxes, free healthcare, etc. We build communities (currently underway) to subvert oppressive systems with mutual support groups, etc.

Again, this is just my personal opinion so please disagree wildly if you wish. Just try to stay constructive.

No, they are not.

Instances have websites but the bulk of the fediverse is done on a completely different layer, even a different port.

Fediverse instances are clusters of microservices. They usually include a database, a frontend and a backend. The backend is where the api is and where federation requests come in and go out. Thats where the magic happens.

If you want to test this, just disable the webserver (frontend) and watch the instance still working. You can also see this working when you look at the different frontends of some bigger lemmy instances for example.

I think the notion that certain traits are normalized or even praised is spot on.

I just finished rings of power and the picture of sauron as the great deceiver who even deceives himself at times is harrowing. I have been very successful in business and met people just like him. The higher i got the more obvious.

People who lie without any change in tone or rhythm, who are incredibly fast and enthusiastic explaining away your absolutely spot on criticisms and fears without as much as breaking a sweat.

These people also have been incredibly unreliable, never due to their own fault of course. They just swish away any competition by any means necessary. And they are impulsive as hell. They just lose it if you dont comply.

On one hand, I really sympathize with people who suffer from the condition i just described traits of. It is impossible for me to say how to act on this without massive discrimination against people with this condition although I see dire need to exclude these traits from any positions of power.

Because if they run unrestrained and even praised, this is how you get genocidal maniacs as rulers of countries. Its these people at the root of every major downfall of our society.

Massive fraud and banking collapse: these traits. Building software to supercharge rents to efficiently drain the public: these traits, it is everywhere.

I subscribed. Thanks for making it. I'll come back once the voting chaos in my country dies down.

I used woocommerce in the past. Its not that complicated. Woocommerce is open source from what I read: https://www.forbes.com/advisor/business/software/woocommerce-review/ i would have to check the source but implementing federation would be quite trivial i guess.

Why bother federating:

You advertise for your partners, not competitors. This is done already but manually by reselling. This would just expedite the process. The only part that is not yet clear to me is if the shop advertises something from another shop and clearly says, only sale processing through website, not fulfillment, if that would also make it that the legal warranty is done by the downstream vendor. Processing returns also is trivial from a technical perspective. Its just the legal one that keeps me guessing atm.

No idea. In my opinion the law and computer code are very similar. Its the people working to make and interpret it who bring in variation, for good and bad.

I agree on the need for legilature. I strongly disagree on the scam. You dont have massive csam on peertube either because it has manual federation. Everyone who runs a business knows that its much more important to not get sued than to sell stuff. Big difference between small businesses and large ones btw.

I agree on all points except the last. It is no problem to outlaw something and disrupting fediverse instances is no problem either. With websites that is a whole different ballgame because they are manifold.

As you said, it exists. You can just clone it from codeberg and run it. Here's an article about it https://wedistribute.org/2024/08/flohmarkt-federated-market/

The oligarchs and monopolists need to be destroyed, at least the status.

Thats not terrible. Still, i hope the eu gets their act together and takes care of these monopolists at some point.

I mean thats great. Bluesky is still just another billinaire walled garden.

If they get paid for it, absolutely.

Aside from that they could at least provide a bulk download, which is another dick move by these walled gardens.

But Twitch says it won't be offering a bulk download tool for that purpose, sticking [users] with the daunting task of downloading and/or reuploading their clips one by one (or using dodgy third-party bulk download tools to do so).

Granted, a programmer or advanced user should have no problem with it but the potential for security incidents is huge for normal users trying to save their favorite clips.

Good point!

The mall was still centralized and most shops didnt have their own place and a stall ij the mall but I can totally see where you're coming from.

It might be a good idea to keep this in mind if this ever becomes reality and we need marketing ideas. :)

I think thats valid. You don't have to accept or look at everything.

Do you mind sharing what your ideal society looks like? I think a lot of folks share common ideas but have vastly different labels for them.

I'll go ahead:

I personally want to work. It can be fun. I want to do things I'm actually good at. I want to be able to afford food and housing. I want to know that i wont starve if I become sick or disabled. I want to be able to survive when I'm too old to work regularly. I want my family to be safe no matter what.

I think those are pretty understandable goals. I want to live in a world where this applies to as many people as possible.

Another win for peertube and owncast.

Let's talk about this in a little more detail.

What do you consider going off the deep end? What do you consider leftist? Which ideas do you consider idiocy? What is your idea of a society worth living in?

I personally am open to any ideas that exclude discrimination of identity. For me the tolerance paradoxon applies.

I'm happy to hear your thoughts.

Thank you for this friendly and encouraging offer. This goes a long way sowing trust. I feel a lot more positive about looking into it now. Have a nice weekend.