Intent does matter, which means if someone continues "adhering to a cultural norm" after being asked to stop, their intent is now malicious. They are willfully disrespectful.

You shouldn't speak on the trans experience if you don't understand it, because you're way off-base. No one should be forced to tolerate the intolerant. If someone calls me something I don't like, I correct them. I'm not ascribing malice, but I am asking to be respected. After that point, if they continue to do it intentionally, they're an asshole and I see no reason to engage with them whatsoever. If your authentic self requires disrespecting others, you're probably not worth engaging with. This is just the paradox of tolerance again.

If you get someone's name wrong, and they correct you, you're an asshole if you continue calling them the wrong name. If you unknowingly call someone a slur, and you continue to use it after being corrected, you're an asshole. The same is true for pronouns, nicknames, adjectives, etc. You don't get to pick and choose what's disrespectful to someone else, and that means you might disagree.

Example: I'm an atheist. I find no issue with cursing god, joking about religion, etc. If a friend of mine told me that they're religious, and that it makes them uncomfortable when I do so, it would be a dick move for me to continue. I don't have to agree with them, but choosing not to respect them because I believe differently makes me an asshole. If that's a line I refuse to respect, then I should remove myself and not be around that person.

This is just victim blaming. Replace "dipshit" with a slur. This is literally you arguing the paradox of tolerance. The post isn't saying to ascribe malice. If someone calls me something I don't like, I ask them not to. I'm not saying they did something wrong. I'm asking politely for them to respect a boundary. If they continue to do it intentionally, they're an asshole. Your boundary can't be "I'm allowed to call you whatever I want." That's intolerant, and there is no reason we should be forced to tolerate the intolerant.

Unless you are a serious believer in the paradox of tolerance, and that you must tolerate everyone regardless of how they treat you in return, there is no way you can actually believe your own argument.

You found the joke

Oh boy. It was a joke.

You were super fun on the playground I'm sure

I feel like unarmed is not vague enough to allow for machine guns lol

What do you lose when someone transitions? They're still the same person, just happier and expressing themselves truly. You lose nothing. The only loss to be mourned would be a relationship that's no longer compatible. It's a change, but it's a positive one, and expressing any form of loss to someone going through such a difficult and scary time is incredibly hurtful.

That person still exists. Mourning their loss shows you don't actually love them as they are.

Yeah basically. The person is still there. You should celebrate, not mourn, that the person you love is taking a step towards who they want to be. Acting like you lost something is incredibly hurtful, because the person is still right there, they're just changing. If their gender expression is the only thing that made them important to you then yes, you're a piece of shit.

He was a piece of shit and so are you for caring about him

The friend is not gone. This implies that you cared about who they were and not who they are. Any mourning is just an indicator that you don't actually love this person, you love who you thought they were and don't actually care about their happiness. Abusive behavior.

Is the argument that because there is a manufacturing process involved in making a hamburger that the suffering is worth it? I didn't torture anyone to transition.

What are the odds these "disagreements" are actually just transphobia wearing a mask? Plenty of us disagree with Ada. We're still here.

Thanks! I see both their points. The comic clearly was intended to point out women's issues but if men resonate with that that's fair too. There was a lot of gross stuff though in the rest of the thread(s). I wouldn't say pizzacake was totally out of line, but it wasn't particularly empathic, the way she responded. The comments by defensive men though... very wrong place, wrong time.

Which deleted thread? The link takes me to an entire post and scrolling through that many comments seems a bit pointless.

I cannot read your comment without great difficulty. I'm sounding it out like I'm learning to read lmao

Wait until you find out where fish and dolphins poop!

My dyslexia nightmare.

The vast majority of people I know in the queer community around me get tested regularly and don't use condoms, since pregnancy isn't a risk.

Saying "your views support this" is not making the argument you're claiming it does.

Would love to. I'm too poor.