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Wait, are you saying that earth is overpopulated, now? I didn't realize I was in conversation with a nazi, but honestly, it explains a lot. Which ethnic group do you want to exterminate?
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Vegans don't want to force anything on anyone. What we want to do is to persuade people to change their minds. I believe wholeheartedly that veganism as a majority position is inevitable. In the past, the idea that black women would be allowed to vote was more unthinkable than majority veganism is now. History trends towards progressivism.
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vegan diet is literally making people crazy
You were wrong about that, just walk it back dude, it's not a big deal, it's okay to be wrong about things.
Also, people with anxiety and depression aren't widely considered to be "crazy".
in a few million years vegans are going to be too stupid to make the choice for themselves and will return to consuming meat because they’re omnivorous.
You need to go back in time and eat more meat so you can be smart enough to not comment stupid shit. I love the idea that millions of years of eating a vegan diet humanity wouldn't evolve to adapt better to the vegan diet. It's very funny.
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I did make an assumption that if you asked them if it's okay for a person to rape their own dog, they would have said no.
I thought that was a pretty safe assumption to make, as I personally would like to believe that being opposed to raping dogs is a shared value for humanity.
Is having cognitive dissonance somehow worse than being a dog rapist to you? I genuinely don't understand what you might be trying to get at, here.
Did you know that one of the common methods of turning pigs into pork is to lower them into a chamber filled with carbon dioxide so that the pigs suffocate to death? They scream out in agony while dying. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs, if not moreso.
I’m not fooling myself into thinking that eating vegan or growing my food organically means nothing or no one suffered.
There isn't any vegan out there who believes that. The point of veganism isn"t to be perfect, it's to reduce harm as much as practically possible.
Of course I am in favor of sustainable farming practices and minimizing use of fossil fuel industry products, but even with all of that factored in, the social/environmental impact of a vegan diet is hugely reduced, compared to a meat-eater's diet, and significantly healthier with massively reduced risk of heart disease and cancer among other conditions. That's not really a solid reason to go vegan IMO, I think animal welfare is the only reason that matters, but it's a nice bonus I guess.
I am, the comparison is extremely apt. An entire group of thinking, feeling, sentient, living creatures, exploited for profit. We look down on them as being beneath us, and a culture that normalizes beating, raping and killing them. Living beings, treated as property. They are slaves. Lots of people like to believe that if they had lived during slavery, they would have been against it. This is the modern equivelent.
Dude, I never, ever wrote that there would be no competition for resources like land. That's fucking obvious. That doesn't make life a "zero sum game", a zero sum game means that every gain is someone elses' loss, and that at the end of the game there are no new resources created. That is strictly not true. We can take actions in life which benefit us without harming others.
In real life, humans have rights, but we also take a balanced view of rights when there are conflicts. For example, if we need to build some important infrastructure, that takes priority over the rights of whoever is living where that infrastructure needs to go. My argument is that the rights of animals not to be killed is more important than our desire to have a tasty meal. I'm not out here arguing we shouldn't build wind turbines because of their negative impacts on wildlife, because I know the positive impacts on countering climate change is better overall.
I'm referring to "scambait" content, Kitboga is probably the best known scambait content creator
It's amazing what people will refuse to comprehend when their salary depends on them not understanding it, isn't it?
I advocate for humanity to live in harmony and balance with our environment, that is why I am anti-imperialist and anti-capitalist as well as vegan. Our history is plagued with exploitation, that can't be denied, but I am trying to change it and you are arguing that it cannot be changed and that we shouldn't even try.
Humanity's relationship with animals and nature has historically been exploitative but it doesn't need to be that way.
We have vastly increased our ability to produce food. There are ample resources available on the planet for all of us to share and live in abundance. Human greed and selfishness is rewarded by our society. That means our society needs to change.
I reject your argument that life is a zero-sum game. My happiness does not need to come at the expense of another's unhappiness. We can all work together to create a better future for all living things on our planet.
That's exactly how people justified slavery in the past, and it is how the person I replied to justified their argument. That's my entire point. It's the same argument.
Oh yeah, I'm sure the entire meat industry would continue to produce meat that nobody paid for just so they could let it all rot. If you want to eat meat, go ahead, but stop fucking lying to yourself about what you are responsible for. Every time you eat meat, a living creature suffered and died for it, and you gave someone money to facilitate that. That is the reality and you should accept it. Take responsibility for your choices instead of fleeing responsibility like a coward.
Most people agree that raping dogs is bad. Maybe they genuinely believe that raping dogs is okay, or maybe they're just saying that to deal with their cognitive dissonance. I would prefer that it's cognitive dissonance, but if they're a dog rape apologist, then they're a piece of shit anyways.
I hope it's cognitive dissonance and not authentic approval of dog rape.
You do it literally every time you purchase a meat product. Meat is made from the dead body of animals. When you buy it, you are retroactively paying for the slaughter of that animal.
Sure, and that's totally valid, nobody is saying you need to become an animal rights activist. I think everyone should try their best to live their values, and that's what I do. It's not about a quest for perfectionism or anything like that, just trying our best as little humans with limited power to make the world a better place.
Imagine if we just locked all the doors and firebombed Davos. Could save humanity in one day of work.
edit: for legal reasons I wish to clarify this is a joke