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  • I feel kind of embarassed that my brain went "Fucking any of them"

  • As long as it's not fucking Wonderwall

  • This entire comment is predicated off of a false assumption.

    It sounds like you are saying that "they deserve it".

    No. I am saying that they do not deserve protections of speech as Christians are not a oppressed minority but the oppressive majority. I'm not seeing the difference between "Jesus Christ" being called a slur or somehow derogatory towards Christians and some some white supremacist claiming that "Cracker" is a slur.

    You're also putting far too much emphasis on what you think that I feel instead of asking for clarification. This is also deeply bothering me because I do not fucking care about Christianity. It isn't a concern of mine nor something that drifts across my thoughts. I do not think about it. I do not change my life for it. It's a fairy tale that was invented thousands of years ago to get people to listen to basic rules and has turned into a tool of extreme hatred and oppression. So forgive me if I have little patience or care for the entire institution. I'm not saying it out of malice. I'm saying it because I don't fucking care. I do not consider Christianity because it does not consider me.

    and if it is okay to make fun of Christians, then put that in the sidebar

    Once again. You are really sounding like a white supremacist claiming that "cracker" is somehow a slur. It is not "making fun of Christians" to say Jesus Christ. It simply isn't. You can be upset by it all you want, and that's valid to be upset by it, but you do not get to reframe reality so that your personal feelings on the matter override how things work. Saying "Jesus Christ!" is not a swear, it is not a curse, it is not hatred directed at someone. It is an exclamation of surprise or bewilderment. It is not mocking of Christianity but you suggesting that a literal slur that, when spoken, is evidence of a hate crime feels pretty fucking mocking of my community and everything we've gone through.

    Christians are killed all the time, but anyway this seems neither the time nor the place to get too deep into all of that - but if it helps, yes Christians are killed, not so much in the USA obviously. Hatred and bigotry exists everywhere in the world, it is part of our human nature, it just takes different forms in different local areas, each according to whatever excuses the people currently in power there try to use to weild their authority over others.

    And in no instance or example of that was "Jesus Christ!" ever said during it as a slur or hatred. The worst you can argue is that someone said "You believe in Jesus Christ!" It was never used as a swear. No one says "You Jesus Christ!" It is not a term used in hatred but a term used in surprise and I am beyond furious at you daring to suggest that Christians being killed for their religion is even remotely comparable to gay people being disowned by their families, being evicted, being killed, killing themselves, etc

    I'm not even going to bother responding to the rest of your comment. You've made way too many assumptions about my opinions, my stances and my feelings without asking for clarification. You've compared the usage of "Jesus Christ" as a remark of exclamation to a word that is said in spitting venom, hatred, and is used during hate crimes. These are not the same and you have managed to offend me so severely in even suggesting that they are that I had to outright leave my fuckin house and walk away for a while before I broke shit and also guaranteed I'm never going to interact with you ever again. I do not appreciate people trying to compare hate crimes with a phrase spoken casually on a daily basis by Christians.

    Also, what would Jesus have preferred here? Seriously? That someone use his name as an exclamation of surprise or that someone compare using his name as an exclamation of surprise with the poor, weak, downtrodden upon and victimized who have had to hear the word faggot spat in their face by people who were deemed their guardians and protectors? Because the Jesus I was raised on? He would have shrugged and said "They know not what they do."

    But I dunno. Maybe I read a different book.

    Have a good day.

  • Who have we decided to be, here, in this place, at this time?

    Not Christian.

    I am not stopping my usage of that phrase. Ever. I'll limit it around people who are uncomfortable by it, but I'm not going to stop using it because I do not respect a religion that does not respect me. I refuse to play by rules that others do not. I refuse to limit myself based off of the whims of a few when the whims of those few killed my people for years.

    Christians are not an oppressed minority. They do not get special treatment and I am honestly nearing 'enraged' territory because my entire life I've been told to fit into the mold of Christians. Whether it's how I talk, how I act, the people I love... it doesn't matter. And now you're telling me that I can't say an extremely common phrase that is used by Christians because it might upset them? No. Simply no. The entire religion upsets me by its simple existence and insistence that I am not a real person or that I am less of one.

    That's the thing I really need to hammer home to you. Christians are everywhere. Y'all get say in everything, including how children are raised. What stores are open when. What things are taught in school. What politicial motivation a candidate has. Frankly, you have too much power and you have too much say. I have had to curtail so much in my life or suffer the hatred and ostricazation of Christians that I am simply not going to bow and curtail to Christians in my language. If you don't like it, tough. I don't like your entire religion and the fact that it has killed so many of people, driven them to suicide, stunted children, gotten them molested, the list goes on and on and on and on and on and on and I'm only talking about shit that I personally have had to deal with from either personal experiences with creepy as fuck priests, creepy Christians, heavy parents that shamed my gay friends into taking their own lives, etc.

    You're not changing my opinion. Ever. Christians do not deserve special treatment when the entire institution refuses to give it to other people.

    And trying to compare "Jesus Christ" to "Fag" had me actively say outloud "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME" so I'm going to need to go calm down now. One of those is a phrase that is used in media. The other is a word that was yelled in my face when someone stabbed me.

    They do not fucking equate. When was the last time Christians were rounded up and summarily beaten to death in a dark alley while having Jesus Christ yelled in their face? When was the last time one was strung up to a fence and beaten then left exposed to the elements after having that yelled in their face? When was the last time that Christians were bullied walking down the streets holding hands with someone else having that yelled in their face? When was the last time that Christians had fear of telling other people they were Christians because they'd lose their jobs, their families, their friends, their homes? I am actually shaking with rage.

  • I have no love for religion when it has killed people in my community and when it has been used to spit hate in my face, as a gay man, on a constant basis throughout my life. I am certainly not going to be respecting one of their 10 Commandments in not taking the lords name in vain when they don't respect the commandments in loving thy neighbor. I do not respect a religion that does not respect me. It is as simple as that. This is a two way street and the oppressed and scapegoated minority is definitely not the one who should make the first move. Especially when "Do not take the lords name in vain" could be applied to a trillion other things, such as using the Lords name to justify support for a party of hateful bigots that stand antithetical to everything the bible claims Jesus to be. Wanna make clear, I'm talking about religion as a whole there and not specifically religious people. It's just hard to reconcile as a gay guy.

    I wrote Rule 1, it doesn't really apply here because Jesus Christ is a generalized swear. It's not used as an anti-Christian epithet. It's not used as a form of hate speech in regards to the religion or the people who use it. It's an expression of extreme surprise. It wasn't used in regards to Christians or in specific to them. Didn't attack them, didn't question them, didn't refer to them. I said two words that have been used in this capacity for at least 200 years.

    Lastly, the title is just quoting a movie. "Jesus Christ, it's Jason Bourne." And that's one of the primary reasons why I definitely don't care about using the phrase. There aren't really any protections for it in media outside of normal swearing. It's been adopted into the main stream as an expression of frustration. Religion has little to do with it anymore.

  • TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world
    Stamets @piefed.world

    Jesus Christ, it's a Straight Line!

    Car Talk with Martok.

    Season 1 / Episode 4

    Episode List Here

    Original Source: DominionMediaTV

  • You shut the fuck up. I do not appreciate being attacked like this

  • TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world
    Stamets @piefed.world

    Planning Ahead

    Car Talk with Martok.

    Season 1 / Episode 3

    Episode List Here

    Original Source: DominionMediaTV

  • Oh I know, I just meant why I randomly peeled off from memes for a second lol

  • Yeah... I was mostly doing it for documentation. Anyone who has even glanced at the modlog of that instance knows that ValueSubtracted and the gang over there go out of there way to keep reddits philosophy of suppression.

  • No.

    Try reading it. It will literally answer your questions.

  • Yep. I've got so many arguments in the backpocket against this crap. I especially love the people who scream about retcons. There wasn't any. You can argue that Burnham being Spocks sister is technically a retcon by the definition, but no lore was actively changed. Spock just didn't talk about her. Much like he didn't talk about his father, his wife or his brother...

  • YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS. You get what I mean.

    These are the same people who would have had a full on stroke at DS9 and Voyager and then a catastrophic meltdown at Enterprise.

    There's a line I like saying a lot because I believe it with every ounce of me.

    Star Trek preaches that there is strength in diversity. Infinite diversity in infinite combinations. Why is that not allowed to apply to the shows themselves?

  • I assume he's being paid for this

    I genuinely don't know. Sometimes it does feel like it, other times it just feels like he's a fan and wants to post about it. But what I can tell you is that I also downvoted damn near every STO post that came across my feed when I was on ST.W too. Downvotes are supposed to be used as a tool to tell what content is supported by the community and that's what I did with my vote. What I would still do. The communities have so little content outside of those posts and nothing else is encouraged. Hell, I've been talking on and off with one of the dudes who designs the ships for STO. His Bsky alone is enough to have some good content for the community but none of that is being posted. It's just patch notes, event, patch notes, pc event, patch notes, console event...

  • I have a lot of issues with the show that stem from two issues, one more so than the other. One is from the show itself and another is from some of it's more toxic fans. It really bothers me when people say "Orville is Real Star Trek" or "True Star Trek" because it's denying the multitudes that exist within Star Trek. It's not all the same and each show takes a different tone. There is no "Real Star Trek". It's all "Real Star Trek". When people phrase it like "It's more like the Trek I love", that I don't care about. But quite a few discussions I get into with people who are fans of the Orville tend to drift across the former line. Using it as a cudgell to attack Star Trek instead of using it as what it is, a love story to support Star Trek in a form that they love.

    It sort of ruined the show for me. I used to like it but I also thoroughly love the Newer Treks. I felt like I was being forced to pick a side. My other issues with the show are fairly minor over-all.

    For the record I'm not saying you're like that or anything. Just that a lot of times I end up in a conversation about The Orville where it feels like I need to pick between The Orville and anything Kurtzman has made. I pick Star Trek. Everytime.

  • Oh you're not wrong. My brain was just slowly shutting down and getting harder and harder to focus.

    The complaint about her crying a lot rings especially hollow to me. Always comes across as "Woman (often black woman) is emotional therefore bad" where other male Captains were emotional too. Or ignoring the fact that her whole character was literally built around suppressing every emotion she has, trying to act like a Vulcan when she wasn't one, and now that emotional turmoil is literally part of the character.

  • I just get you off of one instance and now you're already looking for another.

    Tsk tsk tsk.

  • Exactly. There are only really three things that I find outright objectionable when it comes to not liking the new shows.

    1. Claiming that it isn't "Real Star Trek" as if they're the only arbiter of what Trek is, or that Trek has only ever been one way. It's Trek. You can not like it but it's still Real Trek.
    2. Dogwhistle bigotry. A lot especially revolves around Stamets as a gay character, Adira as an non-binary character and Grey as a trans character. Not liking their character is fine, maybe disagreeing with how it was handled (granted I thought it was perfect) okay, but there are certain things that people say that are ridiculous.
    3. People saying that Alex Kurtzman is worse than Rick Berman. One of those men made new shows people don't like. The other one made new shows people didn't like at the time but also did such horrific things as refusing to allow an actress back on the show to play someone new unless her previous character was held prisoner and raped to death. You can say you don't like Alex's stuff over Rick. You can say that Rick is a better writer, although I'd heavily disagree. But saying that one is a worse person than the other is batshit insane.

    And thanks <3

  • Well. None of the evidence in the post was about me. It was about every other user and what they're doing to them. But sure. I'm throwing a tantrum because I was banned from a mediocre, low traffic, low quality instance that relied so heavily on a handful of users to prop it up that when we left it effectively started floating through space, on life-support, with an undetonated photon torpedo stuck its hull in the shape of a petty little admin.

    Sure. Whatever you say there buddy <3

  • Oh I cannot fucking stand The Orville. There are many many reasons I dislike it, which I listed but was kind of off topic. My blood sugar is low as hell and brain loopy.

    That being said.

    I would have just had a discussion in response to your comment and not fuckin' removed the comment. It's an option for discussion. Just shoving your head in the sand and screaming while removing anything critical isn't helpful to anyone.

  • Ye Power Trippin' Bastards @lemmy.dbzer0.com
    Stamets @piefed.world

    Startrek.Website Admins continue to abuse their position

    So a year ago, or so, I made a big post on TenForward about the insane level of harassment that the admins of Startrek.website decided to subject me to. Due to my posting a lot, I was actually on friendly terms with the admins of STW but then shit changed after I pointed out the abuse of one of their moderators. I left and they went bonkers. Contacting admins of several instances to attempt to get me banned, contacting the admins of my Mastodon instance to attempt to get me banned and using multiple accounts to cover their ass. All of this spearheaded and primarily done by @[email protected] (or VS because I don't wanna type that repeatedly) and I've got the screenshots to prove it. Even more that I can show now that I wasn't able to back then due to certain Admins having left the website and not caring about dealing with the drama anymore. There was also one account that was targeting me aggressively that myself, Admins, and other mods of TenForward came to the

    TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world
    Stamets @piefed.world

    My Mech is 'On The Floor'

    Car Talk with Martok.

    Season 1 / Episode 2

    Episode List Here

    Original Source: DominionMediaTV

    TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world
    Stamets @piefed.world

    Car Talk with Martok: Naturally Won

    Car Talk with Martok.

    Season 1 / Episode 1

    Episode List Here

    Original Source: DominionMediaTV

    TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name @lemmy.world
    Stamets @piefed.world

    Who wore it better?