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There is talk of a lot of things. Did she provide sources, or is it like Trump’s “people are saying…”?

You’re correct that the US has adopted a terrible definition of antisemitism that conflates the state of Israel and the actions of its genocidal apartheid government with Judaism.

Someone recently shared the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism with me, which I find to be a much more reasonable definition of antisemitism.

For what it’s worth, Hezbollah has 13 of 128 seats in Lebanon’s parliament, and the CIA World Factbook says about a third of Lebanese are Christian, so I’m going to disagree with your characterization.

Hamas hasn’t held elections in nearly 20 years, so I’m going to disagree with you again. Israel’s accelerated genocide may have galvanized support for Hamas recently, but I haven’t looked into that.

What does this have to do with BBC? Their coverage on the Israeli hooligans had headlines that at a glance made the responses of locals sound anti-Semitic; they didn’t lead with the instigation.

Thank you for your balanced and measured response. What you said is completely correct. I oversimplified quite a bit in my comment.

No? What does this have to do with Jews? These were some nationalist hooligans destroying Palestinian flags and harassing Arab cab drivers. Stop trying to conflate Israelis and Jews.

https://jewishcurrents.org/recent-polls-of-us-jews-reflect-polarized-community

In the last few years, surveys have begun to suggest that a majority of American Jews do not support unconditional aid to Israel. Instead, they are willing to back conditions that military aid not be used to further Israel’s occupation of Palestinians. In fact, a substantial number of American Jews appear willing to go much further in criticizing Israel than community representatives like Daroff: A 2021 poll of Jewish voters by the Jewish Electorate Institute (JEI), for example, made waves when it found that a quarter of respondents agreed that Israel is an apartheid state.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/

40% say they don’t have a lot in common with Jews in Israel. 42% don’t feel even somewhat attached to the state of Israel. 55% say caring about Israel is not essential to what being Jewish means to them. 66% do not strongly oppose Boycott Divest Sanction.

Stop trying to get people to confuse Jews and Zionists. Huge numbers of Jews have perfectly functioning moral compasses (probably about as many as average Americans) and don’t need to be conflated with Israeli instigators.

Its possible these numbers have shifted recently, as Israel works hard to scare Americans into fleeing to join their settler colonialism project.

You need to read some general media sources that aren’t part of your ethnocultural nationalist colonialist bubble.

Yup, I pasted it in the threads I came across that had poor OP articles. I could have written something unique but… exactly the same message was intended, and I didn’t want to leave any of their biased, popular posts without a response.

Yeah, even NBC’s headline isn’t great. But at least it doesn’t open with bogus “antisemitism” wording.

Fortunately the comments have been good. But the actual articles posted in OPs have been awful.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam's central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam's central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam's central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam's central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

…which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

You can watch the video can get an unbiased account including intonation, expressions, and gestures.

Video of speech available here: https://skwawkbox.org/2024/11/03/exclusive-prof-haim-bresheeths-anti-genocide-speech-before-he-was-arrested-for-terrorism/

If you can afford it, you should try to find a therapist. Therapy helps.

Haaretz also reported this story, but with details behind their paywall.

This is certainly better, but it’s unclear to me whether this item:

Denying the right of Jews in the State of Israel to exist and flourish, collectively and individually, as Jews, in accordance with the principle of equality.

…implies that denying the legitimacy of the state of Israel is antisemitic. While I would have been in favor of a two state solution in the past, the genocidal mania of the apartheid state has led me to conclude that two states alone is insufficient, even with monetary reparations, and justice after the recent level of atrocity perpetrated by Israel might require granting Palestinians full government control of the land.

Ah! When we go to the questions further down:

Guideline 10 says it is antisemitic to deny the right of Jews in the State of Israel “to exist and flourish, collectively and individually, as Jews”. Isn’t this contradicted by guidelines 12 and 13?

There is no contradiction. The rights mentioned in guideline 10 attach to Jewish inhabitants of the state, whatever its constitution or name. Guidelines 12 and 13 clarify that it is not antisemitic, on the face of it, to propose a different set of political or constitutional arrangements.

Ok, this is a MUCH better definition. Thank you for sharing it.