
Why the Turing Test hasn't been passed yet—and why it's a bad measure of intelligence anyway

I've heard this from service techs who have worked on my refrigerator and dishwasher - major appliances in America last a third as long as they did 10 or 15 years ago.
Imagine, government of the people, by the people, and for the people - that's crazy SoCiAlIsM talk!
I agree, capitalism is just one way greed manifests itself. Greedy opportunists figure out how to exploit any system. The people douchevoting you are binary meme-brains who think you're saying capitalism is the greatest thing since Betty White because you didn't explicitly say the opposite.
When did Meredith at Dunder Mifflin become a vampire?
As a science nerd I think BBT is very funny, even when the writers make such glaring errors as having Sheldon stop his self-destruct device just before its countdown reached zero - even though he modeled it after Star Trek, specifically referenced a TOS episode the self-destruct was featured in, and even used the same password. Any true Trek fan knows the Enterprise self-destruct was unstoppable after the countdown reached 5 seconds - a fact that comes up in the very episode Sheldon mentioned. A deplorable writing error, to be sure, but I think such things are amusing in their own way.
The only remotely objective measurement I know is that enough people enjoyed the show to make it last 12 seasons. Y'all are welcome to your own opinions, but all the absolutist pontificating is pretty silly. There's no Kelvin scale of funny.
IT Crowd is hysterically funny as well, but it's written differently (not correctly or wrongly, just different) and was written and performed for a different audience, in a different country. There's really no point arguing which was funnier.
"I've only seen the one episode..."
Sheldon: "You certainly put a lot of effort into expressing an opinion you're woefully unqualified to form."
In other words, you have insufficient data to make a meaningful comparison.
Interesting, I never knew that, even though my parents sent me to a Jesuit high school in Portland OR. All boys sadly, but academically fantastic.
Needs a nice steaming cup of black coffee, piping hot.
I'm confused, does OP want to know what people were doing before high fives or what was recently invented?
By "steal" you mean "copy".
Good to know every generation is progressively more enlightened than previous ones, just like I keep reading on social media. All the world's problems should be solved any day now lol.
Jesus, I was using Turbo Pascal in the 80s. Had no idea it even still existed in 2000. Flex: I wrote my own BBS in Turbo Pascal and ran if for a couple years in Portland - Tomb of the Unknown Modem.
Just my own perspective lol. I was an old-school programmer before the web era, when computers were in a computer room and we used "terminals" that were just monitors with keyboards. I only had a PC and ball mouse for like 5 years before I got an optical mouse.
At one of my jobs a guy ran the speaker wires from the adjoining cubicle in and out of his own computer so he could mix things into the other guy's audio, mostly music and talk radio, at very low volume so it sounded like random stray signals. Took the guy like a month to figure out what was going on.
According to the internets, "Liberation Theology" is a Christian movement that started in Latin America in the 1960s, that preaches against oppression. They sound like the opposite of right-wing "Christians".
WWJD?
Get apprehended and sent to a gulag in El Salvador.
LOL I assumed it was some sort of weird prank.
Absolutely. If humans disappeared for two months every object in the world would be on the floor. Then cats, having fulfilled their mission, would suddenly vanish in a puff of loose hair.
Anybody remember the brief era when kids would steal school computer mouse balls?
Dunno what made me think of this just now. When I worked for IT in a school district way back in the 90s, a librarian told me she kept a supply of mouse balls in her desk because kids would steal them out of the school computers. What I remember about those balls was they picked up dust and crud off surfaces. Pretty soon optical mice came along and they were history.
How to find a post labeled "lemmy.world" that was on another instance?
No idea how I got there but somehow I saw this post somehow on sh.itjust.works, about a prefab house that was found floating in the Pacific. I wanted to comment but the only login I have is on lemmy.world. Notice the post is from The Picard Maneuver, whose posts I've seen many times, and it says lemmy.world above their name.
Lemmy.world has a whitepeopletwitter community but the newest post is 2 months old. This one is from 10 hours ago. Search on the lemmy.world main page for "Minding" turns up a bunch of posts going back months, but this one isn't there.
I thought I understood how federation works but I'm stumped. Is this really a lemmy.world post? If not, what does the presence of "lemmy.world" on it indicate?
You'll know Lemmy has really caught on when search results for "Lemmy" are more about it than the Motorhead guy.
What is it with tuxedos and wrestling or boxing?
Seems to go way back to the B&W movie era - men in tuxedos, women in evening gowns and boas - glamorous socialites dressed to the nines, watching a couple buys beat each other up. Sometimes the MC is in a tux. I don't get how that whole package goes together.
Did you (like me) take up drinking Earl Grey because it was Picard's beverage?
American here. Granted, the tea stands on its own merit. But if not for TNG I probably would still be drinking standard Lipton like my parents did.
Simple question, how do you highlight and copy text from a link?
[SOLVED] - thanks to [email protected]
When I was using Windows, by holding down the Alt key I could highlight words in the text of a link the same way as in normal text, and then press Ctrl-C to copy.
On Mint, holding down the Alt key puts the cursor in a repositioning mode (a cross made of arrows) that drags the current window around. This happens identically in Chrome and Firefox.
How do you copy some words from link text?
We've reached the point where houses only get egged by rich kids.
Man does not live by bread alone.
You also need mustard and mayo.
Anybody here whose main use of computers is NOT games?
I'm an older dude whose phase of staying up all night playing was back in the early console days. I prefer in-person tabletop RPGs like D&D, Traveller and Call of Cthulhu. Just not into computer games anymore, but that and social media seem to be most people's primary computer activities.
Game chatter has changed over the years - I used to see a lot of talk about graphics quality and massively powerful hardware - maybe that was during a period when it was rapidly improving, I dunno. But the current focus seems to be more on game industry business decisions sucking.
Anyway I'm just wondering how common it is to use computers more for coding and other technical non-game stuff.
The Turing Test, enshrined by the public and media as THE test of machine intelligence, really isn't.
Why the Turing Test hasn't been passed yet—and why it's a bad measure of intelligence anyway
Computer pioneer Alan Turing's remarks in 1950 on the question, "Can machines think?" were misquoted, misinterpreted and morphed into the so-called "Turing Test". The modern version says if you can't tell the difference between communicating with a machine and a human, the machine is intelligent. What Turing actually said was that by the year 2000 people would be using words like "thinking" and "intelligent" to describe computers, because interacting with them would be so similar to interacting with people. Computer scientists do not sit down and say alrighty, let's put this new software to the Turing Test - by Grabthar's Hammer, it passed! We've achieved Artificial Intelligence!
Since nothing in this community is about technology we might as well talk about science fiction.
All the stories on the FP are about labor relations and corporate shenanigans. So anyway, do you like Star Trek or Star Wars better? Anybody still ike to read old school sci fi, for example I really love Poul Anderson's Polesotechnic League stories - the swashbuckling adventures of intersteller trador Nicholas van Rijn and his Solar Spice and Liquors company, David Falkayne, et al. Good old basic space opera.
Calling modern cellphones "phones" is like when old Star Trek called their little plastic data slabs "tapes".
What do you want for Christmas but you probably won't get?
Real quantum computers always look like cheesy sci-fi movie prop computers.
I always expect to see a James Bond villain or some sexy robot women in the room.
Replying sometimes hangs, but only in certain threads - is that a bug?
Not sure if this is the right place to post this question. I assume it's probably just server loading, but it's odd because it tends to happen in individual threads. Like when the Reply button sits there with the busy arrow and never completes, I can comment in another thread with no problem, retry the hung comment and it still hangs, even in a new browser instance. It's as if an individual thread gets stuck for a while.
What general price-range gift do you consider a "stocking stuffer" this year?
I've seen $50 electronic items advertised as stocking stuffers. But for me that seems way extravagant. I think the term refers to candy and silly little goobers, that cost a few bucks. But I know inflation has been crazy so maybe my sense of numbers just hasn't caught up. Thoughts?
I wish all food could be as good as pizza.
Nothing more to it - I just love pizza
Just realized I still have half a cookie left!
I made chocolate chip cookies today and brought one downstairs to where my main computer is and ate it - they really turned out good. So I've been sitting here wishing I had brought more than one cuz I don't don't feel like going back upstairs, then just now I look over to the side and boom, half of the cookie is still left. Sweet! And when I say these turned out really good I mean awesome.
Why do I need a different login for lemmy.one?
Not sure how I got to lemmy.one but when it said I had to login to comment on something, my userid/pwd that works here didn't work and the registration link said user registration is closed. Aren't lemmy logins supposed to work across the whole federation? Or are there multiple federations and lemmy.one is entirely different? Maybe I misunderstand the whole scheme of lemmy.
edit: Okay, after a little experimentation I think I get it. On the domain lemmy.world, when logged in, if I look at a thread I see the comment box, but if I go to lemmy.one and find the same thread it says I must login to comment. With the explanations everybody gave here, this makes sense now. So thank you very much, I appreciate the help!
"Give me a 3d printer and a place to plug it in and I will create the world." - Archimedes
"...and filament. Lots of filament."