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  • Decentralized isn't the right word to use for a system like this.

    Even though BS is going to appoint multiple different volunteer moderators (aka "Trusted Verifiers") for this system, ultimate authority and control are entirely centralized with BS.

  • More like: That could be useful, just not for (perhaps many) drones.

    1km isn't that far - the drones that were used for surveillance of Minneapolis protests in 2020 were around 6km up.

    If they needed to get close for some reason, would a 1km deterrent be countered enough by approaching from directly above and using gravity for the last km?

  • Agreed, but the headline and article mention chlorine many times. It's become obvious the last several years that most people are unable or unwilling to put in the effort required to understand nuance in anything. So if the discussion on this topic continues to bang on chlorine, it could lead to a real threat to clean water and perhaps sanitation in general.

    Instead they should say something like 'chemically-disinfected chicken'. Because as you said, it's not that chlorine is bad.

  • I think you may have missed the point:

    servers run by other people for the community to use

    hosted instances of these components for real use

    I'm hoping to see hostnames or IP addresses of existing instances of these components that anyone could connect to, and that aren't controlled by Bluesky PBC.

    Not sure if an absolute list, but https://atprotocol.dev/ is a good resource.

    There are no matches for the word 'relay' on that site's main page, or via the site search.

    there isn't much incentive to run a relay in particular, as it all funnels into the same place

    I disagree with this sentiment, especially since Bluesky "is designed to not be controlled by a single company" and have "many hosts, firehoses, and indexes, all operated by different entities and exchanging data with each other".

    but if you're questioning the tech this guy did it a few days ago with the relay

    https://whtwnd.com/futur.blue/3lkubavdilf2m

    I wasn't able to find a hostnames or IP for his instance on that page.

    It looks like ^ he also has an appview up thats long form blogging here: >https://github.com/whtwnd/whitewind-blog

    That looks cool, but it appears to show different content than BlueSky.

    Another guy also built a lightweight app view

    https://bsky.app/profile/why.bsky.team/post/3lkwg2djrfk23

    I dug through that thread and didn't see the URL for where it is hosted. Also I now feel the need to volunteer that I don't use Mastodon and am definitely not some kind of diehard fan of that app.

    And stream.place is another appview but it's not a microblog platform. Also very early stages I believe.

    Again, I'm hoping to see alternative server instances of all the Bluesky services available for utilization by the public (whether customized or just reposted), not other apps that use atproto.

    I want to see distributed platforms succeed, but as Bluesky notes on their About page, the problem is with centralization of authority. If a necessary part of the system is exclusively managed by a single corporation, it is centralized - whether by intent or just de facto. If that is the case, it would indicate some problem(s) exist that need solutions pursued until the situation is remedied.

  • Is there a list of all the relays and appview servers run by other people for the community to use? I looked for one, but could find no evidence that others have actually hosted instances of these components for real use.

  • It isn't federation, since not all nodes in the system have equal power (control). There is still a central authority that controls what the inferior nodes can do.

    Contrast that with email servers where you can send a message from one server to another without a more authoritative node as a required middleman.