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Oshi no Ko, episode 11: " Idol"

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I feel this episode was kind of weak for a finale. Mana was introduced but she never shows up again, she didn't even get her second scene, and both Ruby and Kana's high points felt very short. It feels like they decided to set up season 2 more than actually wrapping up the season. Still a good episode but lacking for a finale.
- Yeah it doesn't even feel like a finale. To be fair it is just ending 1/3 into the manga so that was never really meant as a stopping point. It's probably pretty difficult to turn that into an ending while staying true to the source.
  Watching it weekly this kinda sucks but I have a feeling in hindsight once the other seasons are out it will be extremely bingable, just like the manga is.
  
  I started bingeing even before the final 4 episodes came out. Can confirm it is extremely addictive and bingeable.
- I was so surprised when I read online that this was the finale. I thought it was just a normal episode.

There is just something magical about crazy good story telling. Crazy good animation. Crazy good emotions. Crazy good characters. I didn't like the music, I like jazz. But for sure they were quite catchy.

Oh Oshi no Ko, you’ll definitely be missed. Not to worry since S2 is announced along with New manga chapter and a banger finale. Massive W for OnK fans today.

As a whole, this anime has been incredibly faithful to the manga. I can basically hold up my book next to the screen and it's more or less panel-for-panel, sentence-for-sentence. I loved being along for the ride. I don't watch a lot of weekly anime but since I have been reading Oshi no Ko weekly since the day the first chapter dropped, I thought I ought to give it a watch.
One of my favorite panels so far was included in this episode:
And in the manga:

On screen for a full 24 frames! Kana bros taking the W this time.
There is also the title drop by Arima Kana in this episode - "アンタの推しの子になってやる！" in response to seeing Aqua waving all three cyalume colors. "hako-oshi", or "box pushing"; not picking a favorite, supporting the entire group.
I do think that Oshi no Ko feeds a lot on weekly hype. This was definitely true for the manga, Aka constantly leaving on a cliffhanger, often times with not a lot of actual plot progressing, but further insight into the thoughts of the characters, backstory, or just straight up lecture on some aspect of modern artist work culture. For sure there are going to be many people who rightfully believe that Oshi no Ko does not live up to the hype, but for me, it just gets better and better the more I re-read and re-watch it. There is some quality that makes me want to go back through and scrutinize every detail again and again.
I definitely enjoyed the anime because I enjoyed the source material. But on top of that, the animation is strong in its own right, bringing a lot of spectacle and impact to the key scenes. In this episode, I really enjoyed the dance choreography as well as Aqua's wotage.
E: Spoiler tag didn't work on mobile so I deleted it all.

Honestly a little underwhelmed by this season. I didn't get caught with the initial hype wave and only ended up binging it in the last few days. First episode showed a lot of promise, but the rest of the show was like shirabako but for the entertainment industry. The idol stuff especially I found not really interesting. I guess I'm not the target audience.
- I really enjoyed it, but I do think there's some inconsistency of tone that makes me kind of wonder what the show is trying to say. At some points (Ai's fate, Kana's difficulty finding work as a former child actress, Akane's experience with cyberbullying), it feels like the show is trying to expose the dark side of the entertainment industry in almost a Black Mirror episodic kind of fashion. Then the long arc of Aqua's revenge and finding out what really happened to his mother - maybe even looping in Akane's almost preternatural understanding of Ai - is another thread that could provide a lot of momentum to the narrative.
  These threads are much more interesting to me than the story of Ruby starting an idol group, but it seems like the serious and interesting subject matter takes a back seat to a side of the show that's fun, but sort of frivolous. I think you could do a show about the hardships young performers face in the entertainment industry, or a supernatural murder mystery about Aqua finding what happened to his mother, or even both put together with episodic bits within a series arc. But doing both of those and an idol show all at the same time makes it feel a little bit unfocused, or even like the idol portion is a little bit undermining the seriousness of the first two topics.
  I'll still watch the second season and I'm interested to see where it goes from here - but in 11 episodes, it felt like there wasn't as much progress I'd hoped on the more interesting sides of the story.
  
  I think you're right, if they had just cut out most of the frivolous idol stuff I would have found it much more engaging. I did find the behind the industry curtain stuff interesting and that would have fit well with the revenge story. The tonal whiplash of the idol stuff was too much.

Didn’t really feel like a Season finale…also based on the intro and outro there’s some supernatural stuff going on with the eyes….
….. too bad it’s completely ignored

It's surprising how much of a main character Kana is looking back from Episode 1 but I'm all for it. Definitely looking forward to the next arc!

That gutpunch of a flashback to first episode events at the end...
the performance looked great. it looked a bit more,.. 2dish (or at least more fluid) than the love live performances i'm more used to (but with all the spinning and zooming in and out and diff perspective angles there's gotta be use of 3d modeling in there). i guess maybe it's in the shading? also all the liveliness in the animation of the various bits and frills of clothing and hair and bounciness of the movements in general which probably couldn't be done in a show with more idol performances than this show has. anyways, i particularly liked all the neon streaks and sparkles.

THE DEVIL DISGUISES ITSELF AS AN ANGEL OF LIGHT.

But for real though, Akane's so cute. I might've shipped her and Aqua if I didn't know the only valid ship was Aqua x Therapy

The season was too short !!!
This really didn't feel like a last episode.
I am kind of surprised how competitive Akane seemed with Kana, we saw a new side of her there haha
And it does really seem like Kana wiill be the main love interest, if there's actually going to be one. Hopefully their competition doesn't turn too ugly, especially now that they will probably be fighting for their love interset as well.

As an anime-only watcher of OnK, this looks like it's setting up a really nice S2! Sad to see my weekly watch go, but that's life and I'll just find another

I’ve already read the manga, yet the ending of the anime leaves me with a weekly hole to be filled

Oh man, sad that it’s already over. Akane being a bit of a psycho once again and Kana being fun and a brat as usual. It wasn’t the strongest of season finales but the whole season was incredibly good. Off to read the manga now.
For those interested you can start from chapter 41 after this episode.

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