Yes, but Hello Game is an indie game company, not a triple-A developer. Indies have a long history of long development of the game after release/public beta. The post is about the state of the game and the fanbase irrationality. HG's direction would probably inspire a revolt in some communities.
Ah shit, yes, sorry about Cities Skyline 2, I liked Paradox when they were still small.
At the same time, Hello Games surely looks like a saint compared to AAA games. But coming from indie and open source games with long open betas and demos before they commit to commercial, the redemption arc looks...dramatic.
Those games don't cost and are purely driven by passion as well.
Ah, yes, I knew about the divergence of this analogy. Let me add the drama.
Yet, it's not even following the original blueprint, where the property owner simply speculates what the next move of the builder will be. Some think this property is hot looking from the outside, some think there is a redemption arc going on, some think there are too many leaks in the wall, some thinks the water pressure and the heater are not working well enough, some think it's just ugly from the inside, some think there is the builders is not communicating at all, some homes vanished, some moved out and gone.
I mean, calling me a dick is already an Ad hominem. You are a jerk because you are a jerk is just circular reasoning, so there is just nothing but insults and ad hominem. xD
Ain't that the absurdity? It is a silly analogy, and they are asymmetrical; if the same action applies, would it have a different reaction in the other place? Would Hello Games have the reputation as they have now?
"Why would you force other industry terms on the gaming industry?"
Judging from the reply here...well, you tell me...
"You, however, had different expectations."
Why are you keeping hammering the flight sim angle? Did I say 6 DOF and Newtonian physics? And you wonder I got defensive? xD
"What does space game even mean? Can’t two space games provide different experiences, a different focus on different mechanics, or is good dogfighting a prerequisite to all space games?"
Fair enough, then take it out; the abandoned mode should be the default. Everyone is finding combat so bad that it is obnoxious anyway, and I wouldn't mind for it to become a fantasy planetarium like Space Engine mods. :)
"I’m not a NMS fan. I think the game sucked. I hate sandboxes."
I love them, I can do so much with them, this is not this one, though. Sandbox doesn't mean there is an excuse for bad mechanics.
Given the number of upvotes by posts, it seems that the reaction to Hello Game is a reflection to the industry rather than the actual quality of the game and the intention of Hello Games.
Yes, I have already said this is commendable...in the gaming industry, but not in other industries in terms of project delivery, hence the building analogy in my post.
"Don’t do that?"
I didn't press S to win, they still circle around in an arc. And they can barely kill the player when he is not moving. Is that good dogfighting AI in a space game?
"You are strangely confrontational for some reason."
Because it is a common tactic for NMS fans to claim others have "different expectations", which you have done twice already.
"exploration first"
Precisely, Minecraft started as a building game, NMS started as an open-world sandbox, or is it an aesthetic planetarium? Does that mean expecting good dogfights is unwarranted? Would you please check their original promotional material on what they are selling?
Fair enough, I will address that. It's a commendable act...in the game industry, but at the same time, it is the professionalism expected in another industry, which is why I brought up the building analogy in my original post.
You can support HG, but that doesn't mean that others have no right to think that it is not a smart thing to do. Spare me your ad hominem tactic, please.
I expect functional dogfights, not simulator like flight model, but something arcady in a space game with functional AI. How is that an unrealistic expectation?
Let's not even talk about a simulated universe of faction battles, which Sean even mentioned as being in the game.
This along with Blood Dragon, are the best Far Cry games for me, that was when Ubisoft was still the good guys...