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  • Again: WTF are you talking about?

    I'm literally suggesting that Israel should be dealt with exactly like the 3rd Reich - get rid of the fascist government, restore law and order in the region, protect Palestine. But not by eradicating Israel. One genocide does not justify another!

    And for that, the extremist fundamentalists around here are calling me a "genocide advocate".

  • Weird. I use it on my Linux PC and my Android phone. It had a period of problems some weeks ago, but the creator of the YouTube plugin fixed it and it works perfectly fine again.

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  • Are you... suggesting that the existence of Germany on our current maps is a hoax and in reality it doesn't exist...?

    WTF are you trying to show here?

    Facts are this: 3rd Reich got spanked, its government eliminated, its people remained where they were, and after a short while, governance over the territory was restored to the German people (with the exception of East Germany, but that had nothing to do with 3rd Reich being removed, that was just russia's attempt at colonialism).

    Now, in terms of Israel, people here seem to be suggesting that we should let Hamas "do its thing", which is: the complete eradication of Israel as a state, a nation, and a culture. Which, by all definitions, is a genocide.

    I'm saying: let's spank them, eliminate their government, let their people remain where they are, and after a short while, restore the governance of its territory to the Israeli people (with the caveat that West Bank and Gaza return to Palestine).

    Which is what we did with the 3rd Reich. And for which you people are calling me a proponent of colonialism and genocide.

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  • I'm sorry, are you a disabled person? Or did you forget the point you guys were trying to make?

    Rhodesia changed its government and name.

    South Africa changed its government.

    No third parties partitioned the lands of either.

    Your examples are advocating for my approach of punishing the leadership and giving the people a fresh start.

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  • Which countries have partitioned and taken over the land of Rhodesia and South Africa? You can show me on the map.

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  • Oh! That's a great example!

    Show me on the map which countries have partitioned and taken over Germany's lands after WW2!

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  • WTF even is this comment? I said what I said.

  • It's a kind of "yes, but actually no" situation.

    Way back when, smartphones were a relatively new thing. Nobody gave a crap, so building a new OS that had similar capabilities to the competition was easy. We had a bunch of those over the years.

    However, every new OS means new architecture, every architecture means developers having to take it into account when building apps.

    Eventually, the smartphone market essentially defaulted to Android and iOS - long gone are Windows Phone, Blackberry OS, and a dozen others.

    They didn't die off because they somehow had to - they died off because they couldn't keep up with feature parity with Android and iOS.

    Nowadays, everything is being made for these two OSes. And by "everything" I mean things that are actually crucial to people - banking apps, ID apps, train ticket apps, parking lot apps - things that they either cannot replace with "not in a smartphone" solution, or can, but it would force them to juggle cards and papers.

    Any new OS coming in must take that into account. If Linux comes to mobile phones but can't run national ID apps or banking apps, it will have a market share of maybe 1% - the hardcore fans, and the "technological preppers" who are always anonymous, always off-grid - and that's that. No users further users will switch, and because no users switch, no developers will take it seriously enough to make their apps work on it.

    Windows Phone is a great example of this. At its height it had around 20% of the European market share. And what happened? Snapchat (massive at the time) and Google actively worked to undermine and destroy it, because they knew that - in the long run - it'll be cheaper than having to hire a third group of developers. With 3rd party alternative apps being constantly blocked, the OS eventually went down to sub 5% in its biggest market, and sub 1% in the US, and Microsoft finally pulled the plug.

    An OS coming in without critical app support won't ever get to even 1% of market share in any region larger than "local Linux fanclub".

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  • Again: you're not reading what I'm writing, you're only seeing "he's not 100% agreeing with me, therefore he's a Nazi Zionist colonialist genocide proponent".

    It's pathetic, really.

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  • You're the kind of person who calls another "Finnish" just because of the instance they're on. You're not interested in humanity, you're only interested in labels. It's sad and evil.

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  • It's like you don't even read my comments, just default to "wah, wah, wah, you're a colonialism denier, wah, wah, wah!"

    There's no reason to continue this conversation in this context.

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  • You're a fundamentalist extremist and a hateful human. Be better.

  • What we need is a good linux phone that is affordable, has hardware that isn’t slow, and isn’t over sold to an annual pre-order.

    That's not enough, sadly. That phone must support, at the very least, all the national ID and banking software. And that bit might be tricky.

  • Europe is slowly working on that. Ironically, Trump's policies were kind of a blessing to Europe, because it forced politicians to finally start working towards strengthening the independence of the region.

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  • Telling that you can’t separate a nation that was founded as a settler colony less than 80 years ago from its entire population.

    Why do you consider Israel to be the settler colony, and not Palestine of both peoples were in the exact same situation 80 years ago? Both were living in the region (and spread out all around the world, with a higher percentage of Israelis than Palestinians "roaming") for thousands of years, both nations were established at the exact same time with the exact same resolution. How is only one of them a "settler colony"?

    It’s about colonialism, which is exactly “Israelis” (colonizers) vs. Palestinians (the native people)

    Again, this is only true if you either ignore all the archaeological and historical evidence we have, or are a fundamentalist extremist who's calling for a genocide. Which are you?

    colonialism is genocidal.

    That's not how words work, mate.

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  • Where did I deny colonialism? I acknowledge the fact that Israel is occupying (and colonising) the West Bank and Gaza, I firmly believe they should be pushed out and forced to pay reparations for the decades of stealing land and killing Palestinians.

    Is this "colonialism denial" to you?

    Yeah, it’s all just colonialism denial. You are a genocidal colonialism supporter. No amount of calling “Israelis” “Israelites” to pretend they’re native to the region and not colonizers will make it true.

    Israelis vs Israelites might come from language barrier. English is not my native language.

    But saying they're not native to the region when we have archaeological and historical evidence of them being there over 3000 years ago is either extreme ignorance, or fundamentalist extremism.

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  • Ok but you don’t reject the Israeli State. Which was founded on a genocide

    I disagree here.

    Palestinians and Israelites lived in the region for - literally - thousands of years, but neither had a nation. The exact same resolution that established Israel, also established Palestine, and that happened after the "civil war" between them. It wasn't genocide, it was a ham-fisted attempt at stopping a genocide, because both parties wanted to eliminate the other.

    Do I agree to all Israel's policies, including the occupation of West Bank and Gaza? Absolutely not. Do I agree that the way these two nations were established was correct? Absolutely not.

    But this is what they got, and they need to learn to live with it. Just like Qatar did. Or Yemen. Or Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, and Jordan, etc. They were all established by the colonial powers after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, they were all created by moronic Europeans who divided the land based off of oil reserves, and not history, culture, or religion. But - somehow - you don't see Qatar fighting Bahrain non stop, or Emirates bombing the Saudis.

    This is like saying you’re anti-genocide but you support the US’s right to exist.

    I'm against going "ooh, but historically X should be Y". What's the historical state you want to turn back the borders to? Should Poland stop existing because we're turning back time to the 18th century? Are we going back to 19th century, where Ukraine was under the russian boot? What is the "correct" state of the world's borders, in your opinion?

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  • So, it's not about "Israelis vs Palestinians", or wider, "Israelis vs Arabs". It's just literally about the establishment of Israel as a nation? That's it?

    Explain to me, how are you not a proponent of genocide if you want to eliminate a nation?