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outbound federation doesn't seem to be working right now

I just made this post https://programming.dev/post/4307457

but it isn't showing up here https://sh.itjust.works/c/speedrun

I had a similar issue on a previous post but I didn't think much of a single failure and fixed that one myself by doing the search

https://programming.dev/post/4295735

but now I see it happening again and with a different instance I think there's something wrong

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  • Oh, that explains why I havent gotten a single upvote on any of my comments for the last 6 days. My lemmy.world account cant see a single programming.dev comment I have made anywhere (or at least in lemmy.world, startrek.website, and sh.itjust.works).

  • (for people not in the discord or instance admin matrix since its been getting talked about there)

    Other instances have reported similar problems

    Im guessing its a bug with 0.18.5 instances interacting with non 0.18.5 instances.

    • programming.dev (0.18.5) - report about content not showing on sh.itjust.works which is on 0.18.4
    • lemdro.id (0.18.5) - report about content not populating from lemmy.studio and sopuli.xyz which are 0.18.3 and 0.18.4
    • midwest.social (0.18.4) - content not showing up on lemmy.ml which is on 0.18.5

  • It seems to vary between instances, even ones on 0.18.5. For example, lemmy.world and programming.dev seem to be struggling to talk to each other (can't see or search for posts, for example), but infosec.pub (which hosts this account) seems able to communicate with both.

    [edit] infosec.pub can post to programming.dev and that post federates over normally. Posts from programming.dev on itself or infosec.pub do not federate over to infosec.pub, but can be searched from infosec.pub (whereupon they show up normally).

  • IIRC, this is how it works by design. Posts don't get federated to another instance unless someone from that instance interacts with it e.g. searches for it, comments on it, etc

    • Thats only the case for communities, not posts in an already fetched community

      • What do you mean by "already fetched"? I've been on the fediverse for quite a while and I've never seen new posts from a community be automatically federated across every other instance in the fediverse without someone from those instances interacting with it (e.g. following the community, searching it, etc). Can you point me to where it says it works the way you say? Not saying you're wrong. But would be news to me.

    • To convert the process into Mastodon terms, a community is like a dummy user, it's not like a hashtag. Making a post to a community is like doing a mention tag to it, like @communityname@instancename, so the community's home instance should always see all the posts to it. (This is the part that I noticed wasn't working)

      The community boosts every post to it, so every user who is subscribed/following the community can see the posts that it boosts, which means the instances hosting the subscribers/followers will receive copies of the posts, so federation is automatic there because of the boost.

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