Bulletins and News Discussion from April 21st to April 27th, 2025 - JD Vance vs Pope Francis, No Items, Final Destination

Buying american to ship to ukraine via debt, on individual country level it won't fly (although germans and brits are particularly unhinged), but euro commission could swing like 50 billion a year, especially if the porky escapes into eurobonds. I know frenchies and geramns are constantly whining that they should buy european, but eh, countries make do.

That's going to be an extremely tough sell to the western Europeans. The welfare state will be completely destroyed

The European establishment already has countless demonic articles lined up to try and manufacture consent about this sort of thing, although I'm not sure how effective they'll be - likely it'll be another contributing factor in right wing populist parties running on a vague anti war ticket winning in landslides in most European countries in the foreseeable future although how willing those parties will be to actually break with the US and NATO remains to be seen.

That's going to be an extremely tough sell to the western Europeans. The welfare state will be completely destroyed.

In Denmark the propaganda still works and the average people, as well as virtually everyone who has opinions for a living, is still in critically supporting the idea of mindless military escalation to defeat the Russian menace. Until now the regime has been able to fund the spending spree with the surplus generated by previously existing this public finances but the party is soon going to be over and the regime will have to find the funding somewhere.

A few years ago they abolished a public holiday to fund the military and even though people were even more Slava Ukraini back then it made the regime extremely unpopular and strained their traditional relations to the unions as well as to other right-wing parties. They have never recovered.

In a televised "debate" on how to defeat the Asiatic hordes, that took place shortly after Trump had his fallout with Zelensky, the regime tried to deflect on the question of funding, knowing very well that while the average westerner loves blood and steel they don't live paying for it. However the frivolous far-right "Liberal Alliance" party, the most popular party to the right of the regime and likely to gain significant power if the regime falls, were less mealy-mouthed, they wanted to reduce unemployment benefits from two to one years, with no reduction in unemployment fund membership fees for workers, in order to fund the military.

I reckon that we will see significant austerity to pay for militarism but I also don't think it will be a walk in the park for the ruling class to do. Propaganda can't make people forget about their material conditions forever.