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  • Zero serious discussion -> nihilism sets in

    did genzedong actually say anything to get quarantined or was that another disinformation strike?

    deprogram is pretty much identical memes but sides neutral/against assad putin & maduro

    • did genzedong actually say anything to get quarantined or was that another disinformation strike?

      Being openly pro Russia when the SMO started. The reason given was a vague reference to "disinformation".

    • Deprogram is like if you mixed genzedong with 196, inserting a lot more radlib and literal children

      The users there seem very young and internet naive, like they are blown away by common leftist facts and have a hard time parsing cynicism and sarcasm, often misinterpreting meaning. Contrast that with the old Chapo or TrueAnon subreddits where there’s a bunch of heterodox weirdos with tons of esoteric knowledge and references, and lots of humor/sarcasm and world weariness, it’s night and day

      • That's probably true overall yeah, that's why you can just as easily have a thread that's like "what do we think of these guys?" and a picture of the Communist Party of the Philippines (where all the commenters are like "they give me a good feeling. great stuff") as you can have a thread giving Sison a raised eyebrow for calling for attacks on companies the Philippine govt & the US had recently sanctioned from the Netherlands shortly before his death

      • tbf, its the literal deprogramming sub. a lot of people there will be new to leftism because the three deprogram hosts make content for new leftists

    • It was and it wasn't, afaik.

      GenZedong was too blatant and shitposty with its content and was quarantined for being too toxic.

      Or that's what I was told anyway. They also kept brigading others too.

      But yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a disinfo strike on top of other factors, which I'm not entirely unsympathetic to.

    • GenZedong was cool, although very shitposty. The subs that replaced GenZedong (Dongistan and such) were terrible though, allowing actual fascists to vibe in there just because they happened to support Russia at the start of the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

      • every version of Dongistan is trash, that's worth mentioning lol

        turanic racism caucus

        • I only ever saw it on Reddit, not surprised though. That subreddit (Dongistan) was literally what lemmy libs describe Hexbear as, red fascists. Proof that leftist movements without theory quickly devolve into liberal sensationalism

          • I remember in 2019-2020 the Infrared mods were like openly trying to parlay with TrueAnon fans, because they interact with other "online debate" communities that act like that, where there are like alliances and shit. Very bizarre.

            They genuinely were just like "hmm, Epstein didn't kill himself, vaccine skepticism, maybe these are also our guys? poke em"

            Not a leftist movement, it's more like the false Buddhist monk's Discord, Bhante Varrapanyo. Right down to the former rightist + religion debate overlap. (Go look up people on /r/Buddhism complaining about him if you're curious lmao, allegedly he was waving around bales of cash and screaming.)

            GZD and Deprogram and Chapo are really only as different as they want to make themselves out to be, they act like similar manifestations. At least GZD is actually politically connected to the Landless Workers' Movement in Brazil, and you all donate to Chunka Luta. I guess Tankie Bunker has CPUSA, which definitely exists.

          • I still think this is giving patsocs and people too much credit 😂 they just sidle up to people who they notice have potential overlapping conversation topics. They barely know what is even happening

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