A 2008 discussion, from an archive released two days ago

From https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/33711-document-3-memorandum-conversation-subject-meeting-president-russia (at https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/foia-russia-programs/2025-12-23/archive-lawsuit-opens-vladimir-putin-memconstelcons)(from this french account)

(just something more to add to the long list)